Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-17 Thread Le Grande Valerie
To relieve your curiosity, Maint still had the 123, but DIRMAINT could no t get it RW to do updates. I have gone the route suggested by Kris/Mike. Updated the EXTENT CONTROL to put END back in on my REGIONS (540RES not part of that). Took the USER BACKUP and changed all the MDISKs back to E

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-17 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Using CMDISK would also be OK, of course. Just trying to figure out how you lost that link... On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Ivica Brodaric wrote: > Valerie, > How did you update the size of MAINT 123? Using GET/REPLACE or using > DMDISK/AMDISK? If you used the latter, then maybe you forgot to

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-17 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Valerie, How did you update the size of MAINT 123? Using GET/REPLACE or using DMDISK/AMDISK? If you used the latter, then maybe you forgot to use KEEPLINKS operand of DMDISK. Without that, a LINK to MAINT 123 in DIRMAINT's (and any other) directory entry would be deleted when you delete MAINT 123.

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I like your explaination Mike. Very good. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Mike Harding Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Dirmaint Broken? Part of the problem is that MAINT

Re: Dirmaint Broken? - update

2009-04-16 Thread Ron Schmiedge
You're welcome Valerie. I am not sure what you mean by the comment that "the system itself seems to use this". DIRMAINT uses it, for sure. And it also gives you a way to adjust it as you see fit. To me, "the system" is the operating system. DIRMAINT was tacked on long after there was VM. I maint

Re: Dirmaint Broken? - update

2009-04-16 Thread Le Grande Valerie
Thanks to all for the information. Just to let you know, I am still working on this and want to be sure that I know what and how I need to fi x before I try to start fixing. I have learned a lot of useful information - commands, techniques -- from you all and I really want to work through this

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Hi Valerie, I hope not to add to your confusion, and I have held off because I am not on z/VM 5.4 but z/VM 5.3, plus there is always lots of expert advice from this list. A couple of things though. If you have the MAINT extents, and others, listed in the EXTENT CONTROL file, that is good, but yo

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Kris Buelens
Good point, I forgot the STABLE links done by CP itself. So proceed as I told, using DEFINE MDISK and DIRM USER BACKUP, still fairly easy (in my eyes, will cost me 5 minutes). DEFINE MDISK will create whatever you like in R/W mode, no need to reipl, or create a USER INPUT 2009/4/16 Mike Harding :

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Mike Harding
Part of the problem is that MAINT 123 is no longer being seen as a full-pack minidisk. Thus you truly have overlaps with other write links - and the killer is the stable links to minidisks (probably your parm disks) contained within the same extent. You said: MAINT has MDISK 0123 3390 000 10

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Huegel, Thomas
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Le Grande Valerie Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:51 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Dirmaint Broken? I guess the message is not telling the truth then! Since DIRMAINT is broken, it is likely listed.

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Kris Buelens
Some shortcut-key in GAMIL made the SEND go prematurely 2009/4/16 Kris Buelens : > STABLE links is something that I only saw being used by DFSMS, it > means no one else can get a R.W link, that's my MAINT's 123 got it MR > link become R/O. Maybe newer support in DIRMAINT makes it use STABLE > lin

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Kris Buelens
STABLE links is something that I only saw being used by DFSMS, it means no one else can get a R.W link, that's my MAINT's 123 got it MR link become R/O. Maybe newer support in DIRMAINT makes it use STABLE links? Q LINKS does only reveal who has a minidisk starting at the same cylinder, so your Q

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Le Grande Valerie
I guess the message is not telling the truth then! Since DIRMAINT is broken, it is likely listed.

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Huegel, Thomas
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Dirmaint Broken? I thought that sounded dangerous also, or at least weird. Q LINKS 123 just gives me that MAINT has it R/O. Briefly checked manual. = No parameter to add. Logged off and on and still got: 09:20:08 HCPLNM103E DASD 0123 forced R/O; R/W by48, R/O by97 users

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Le Grande Valerie
I thought that sounded dangerous also, or at least weird. Q LINKS 123 just gives me that MAINT has it R/O. Briefly checked manual. No parameter to add. Logged off and on and still got: 09:20:08 HCPLNM103E DASD 0123 forced R/O; R/W by48, R/O by97 users; stable by 3

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Huegel, Thomas
ting System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Le Grande Valerie Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Dirmaint Broken? With all the information I have been given, I am still unsure I know how = to fix this. Here is some more information: Today when

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Le Grande Valerie
With all the information I have been given, I am still unsure I know how to fix this. Here is some more information: Today when I logged on to MAINT, I noticed I got error message HCPLNM103E DASD 123 forced R/O; R/W by 48 R/o by 97 users Stable by 3 MAINT has MDISK 0123 3390 000 10016 540RES M

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-16 Thread Kris Buelens
he new directory. > Tom > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on > Behalf Of Le Grande Valerie > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:29 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Dirmaint Broken? > > >

Re: Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-15 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Dirmaint Broken? Hi all, I thought I was getting the hang of using DIRMAINT, but now I think I = shot myself in the foot. I am wondering now how to fix the wound. Yesterday I made some changes that appeared

Dirmaint Broken?

2009-04-15 Thread Le Grande Valerie
Hi all, I thought I was getting the hang of using DIRMAINT, but now I think I shot myself in the foot. I am wondering now how to fix the wound. Yesterday I made some changes that appeared to be successful. After some searches of the list archives, I thought I did something good but now I a