Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-10 Thread David Boyes
> I think the person > you sell it to will not be happy that you just sold him or her a box of > spare parts. :-) Given the price of spare parts for that machine from IBM and/or maintenance for same, he may want it for just that reason. 8-)

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-10 Thread David Boyes
> Tha last z/VM that would run on that box was 2.4 or perhaps 3.1, neither > of which IBM still sells. For a MP3000, z/VM 4.4. It was a G5 machine if you had up to date ucode. The P390 only ran up to ESA 2.4, unless you had the PCI version, which would run 3.1 (very, very slowly).

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/10/2007 at 09:05 EDT, "Dodds, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The last Z/VM to run on that box is 4.4. We are currently running both > MP3000 and z/VM 4.4 As long as you already have z/VM V3 or V4 in-house, everything's ok. If the MP3000 represents a net increase to your z/VM

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-10 Thread Dodds, Jim
Behalf Of Rich Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Hardware microcode On: Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 04:12:53PM -0500,Adam Thornton Wrote: } On Oct 9, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: } } >Wonders never cease! After two years, someone wants

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 10/09/2007 at 04:05 EDT, Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does it have the microcode with it? The Licensed Internal Code (LIC) has its own license, but it is "part of" the box. > Well, right now it does, but should it? > Is the microcode, which is licensed by IBM, licensed

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-09 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 9, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Rich Greenberg wrote: Although IANAL either, I think Adam is correct, BUT... Tha last z/VM that would run on that box was 2.4 or perhaps 3.1, neither of which IBM still sells. The P/390, sure. The H70 should run up to 4.4 (although the same argument still appl

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-09 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 04:12:53PM -0500,Adam Thornton Wrote: } On Oct 9, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: } } >Wonders never cease! After two years, someone wants to buy our old } >MP3000/H30. } > } >And they asked a question, that got us concerned... } > } >Does it have the microcode

Hardware microcode

2007-10-09 Thread Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Wonders never cease! After two years, someone wants to buy our > old MP3000/H30. > And they asked a question, that got us concerned... > Does it have the microcode with it? Yes, the MP3000 has LIC (Licensed Internal Code). This is both the code running on the SAP (System Assist Processor) and

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-09 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 9, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: Wonders never cease! After two years, someone wants to buy our old MP3000/H30. And they asked a question, that got us concerned... Does it have the microcode with it? Assuming that it works like the P/390 (which it *should*, but I Am Not

Re: Hardware microcode

2007-10-09 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Tom. First, I am NOT a lawyer and I don't pay one on TV, but my understanding of the M3K microcode, and OS/2 support system licensing is that they are part of the system and can be legally transferred (i.e., sold) to another party. what you can not transfer is an operating system license

Hardware microcode

2007-10-09 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Wonders never cease! After two years, someone wants to buy our old MP3000/H30. And they asked a question, that got us concerned... Does it have the microcode with it? Well, right now it does, but should it? Is the microcode, which is licensed by IBM, licensed to the box, or to the customer? Is