Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-05 Thread Dave Wade
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: 05 January 2010 01:04 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe Actually, Jack nailed

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Troth
, Dave Wade g4...@dpwade.eclipse.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: 05 January 2010 01:04 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-05 Thread Howard Rifkind
, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 2:34 PM Dave -- This is ridiculous.  Do you really want to start a religious war

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-05 Thread Dave Wade
Dave G4UGM -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: 05 January 2010 19:34 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe Dave

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-05 Thread Dave Wade
: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe Well, best of luck. Of course it's disheartening to see another VM shop bite the dust but that's the way things seem to be going these days. Perhaps this is a sign of the times. Of course there will, for the most part

Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Wayne Smith
Hi all, It's been 7 years in the making, or tearing down. We shutdown our mainframe December 31. We ran VM for an incredible 38.5 years and it was a blast, especially at SHARE and the various incarnations of this group! - Gerry Dube has retired (mostly), though not before helping all Maine

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread sunny . hu
Puzzled? Is that the future for the mainframe ? Sunny From: Wayne Smith w...@maine.edu To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 01/04/2010 11:30 AM Subject:Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Mike Walter
Wayne, Sorry to see you moving on... especially after so many years of the University of Maine contributing great tools to VM. For newbies, IIRC the CP TRACE instruction began as local mods to CP by the name PER (Program Event Recording) from the good folks up there. It's a shame that your

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Bill Munson
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe Hi all, It's been 7 years in the making, or tearing down. We shutdown our mainframe December 31. We ran VM for an incredible 38.5 years and it was a blast, especially

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Bill Munson
on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe Puzzled? Is that the future for the mainframe ? Sunny From:Wayne Smith w...@maine.edu To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:01/04/2010 11:30 AM Subject:Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Jack Woehr
sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: Is that the future for the mainframe ? // The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem. Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labor which he taketh under the sun?

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Scott Rohling
I find the idea that there is 'nothing new under the sun' as crippling and undermining man's ingenuity. It's a singularly cynical passage..all is vanity, indeed. phooey. Glad you scraped some kind of positive message off of it... Scott On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Jack Woehr

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Richard Troth
Actually, Jack nailed it. (And so did Solomon, for that matter.) In context, running the stuff on Windows is truly nothing new under the sun. But some shops will do that because someone thinks Windows is sexier than VM or MVS or Unix or ... whatever. Vanity! I confess that I find Ecclesiastes