Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-26 Thread Jim Bohnsack
COS was pretty much standard with the early S/360-30 users. I don't remember if it came as a part of DOS or was an addon. I was a Jr. Ass't. Probationery Trainee IBM Systems Engineer starting in 1967 and from about 1968 when I was actually allowed to go to a customer account almost, everyone

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-25 Thread Carey Schug
I don't know about the model 25, but we had a room full of mod 30s that had a locally MODIFIED operating system (DOS) to support a program we called COS or COSFG (for compatibility operating system), so we could emulate two 1401s (each an 8K 1401 in a 24K DOS paritition), one in the F1 partition

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. (the picture)

2006-11-08 Thread Steve Gentry
: Subject:Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. On: Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 02:28:13PM -0500,Steve Gentry Wrote: } On page 50 of the Nov. 2006 issue of SC Magazine is a picture that has } been labeled a System/360. } I've seen a lot of S/360 pictures and have even been in the presence of } one

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. (the picture)

2006-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 11/8/06, Rich Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } http://home.insightbb.com/~hobbes/s360/ibm360mod20.jpg Yup, thata a 360/20. Was the provided radio (next to the phone) loud enough to hear with the machine feeding cards in? Or was it used to hear an infinite loop (how long did those take

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. (the picture)

2006-11-08 Thread Parmelee, Phil
Christmas carols. Phil -Original Message- From: Rob van der Heij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:18 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. (the picture) On 11/8/06, Rich Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } http

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related

2006-11-08 Thread Jeff Savit
Well, that presses all my nostalgia buttons at once! The 360/22 was the first computer I programmed or operated. We ran HASP RJE on it, and then (once we got to a full 64K of core memory) ran DOS/360 release 26.2 - though at one point I did an OS/360 PCP install. You could watch it go CPU-busy

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related

2006-11-08 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Back around 1970 or so, I did a performance study on a S/360-30. At that time, IBM published instruction times somewhere--don't remember where. But I came up with a result that said that a mod 30 was an 18 kip machine. Jim Jeff Savit wrote: Well, that presses all my nostalgia buttons at

OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Steve Gentry
On page 50 of the Nov. 2006 issue of SC Magazine is a picture that has been labeled a System/360. I've seen a lot of S/360 pictures and have even been in the presence of one, but I don't ever recall a S/360 looking like this. Obviously, there is a printer and a card reader in the picture. Is the

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Jeff Kennedy
: OT: S/360 hardware related. "SC Magazine" "For Security Professionals" Yes it is online, but I did not find the article. In doing some additional searching, I think it is a 360 model 20. I didn't know 360's came this small. Steve G Jim Bohnsack [E

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Neale Ferguson
The model 20 was a unique 360. It was made in Germany and had some quite different supervisor-state opcodes (e.g. XIO for doing I/O). In my youth I stumbled across the minutes of the local IBM User group (circa 1967) and there was a big debate as to whether those with 360/20 should form their own

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Steve Gentry
: Subject:Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. The model 20 was a unique 360. It was made in Germany and had some quite different supervisor-state opcodes (e.g. XIO for doing I/O). In my youth I stumbled across the minutes of the local IBM User group (circa 1967) and there was a big debate

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Julian Wall
The 360/20 ran DPS Disk Programming System a subset of the regular 360 Instruction set. I still have my IBM System 360 reference Card System/360 Model 20 x20-1727-5 its a white booklet form.. Julian Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 601-479-7460 Neale Ferguson wrote: The model 20 was a unique 360.

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Jim Bohnsack
PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/07/2006 02:33 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. Is that magazine online? What mag. is it? Jim

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Parmelee, Phil
z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/07/2006 02:33 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. Is that magazine online? What mag

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Stephen Frazier
That should be 360-50 not 36-50. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recognize it. That is a 360-25 with a MFCU at one end and a printer at the other. Back in the early 70's the Oklahoma Tax Commission had one that ran an operating system called DOS that later grew up to be z/VSE. My roommate was

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
to reuse old ones :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:44 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:Re: OT: S/360 hardware related

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 02:38:50PM -0500,Steve Gentry Wrote: } SC Magazine For Security Professionals Yes it is online, but I did } not find the article. In doing some additional searching, } I think it is a 360 model 20. I didn't know 360's came this small. } Steve G The model 20 was a

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Parmelee, Phil
It is a 360/20. the 360/25 was larger and the upgrade from there was to a 360/mini-mod-22. the 360/25 would run 1401 emulation. -Original Message- From: Stephen Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:52 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OT: S/360

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread StephenPFrazieVM
and the upgrade from there was to a 360/mini-mod-22. the 360/25 would run 1401 emulation. -Original Message- From: Stephen Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:52 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. That should be 360-50

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. Are you sure? It looks like the Tax Commission room in the basement of the capital building. I am sure they had a 360-25 running DOS. We had a 360-50 (my roommates machine

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Steve Gentry
/360 hardware related. On: Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 02:28:13PM -0500,Steve Gentry Wrote: } On page 50 of the Nov. 2006 issue of SC Magazine is a picture that has } been labeled a System/360. } I've seen a lot of S/360 pictures and have even been in the presence of } one, but I don't ever recall } a S

Re: OT: S/360 hardware related.

2006-11-07 Thread Julian Wall
Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:52 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OT: S/360 hardware related. That should be 360-50 not 36-50. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recognize it. That is a 360-25 with a MFCU at one end and a printer at the other. Back