Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-26 Thread Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD
Systems) Administrator, Executive, & Financial Domain Division WHS/ITMD/AEFDD 703-697-2305 Rate Our Service -Original Message- From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mo

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-26 Thread David Boyes
> Presently the application is split onto several disks. The data is to be > combined onto one disk. The data is a NOMAD database. Ah. That would argue against SFS, then. Nomad does its own balancing act internally. > I thought PAV was not an option for VM. Does z/VM 5.2 support PAV? Well, s

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-26 Thread Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD
Thank you. Cecelia Dusha

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Tom Duerbusch
VM supports PAV for guests. I don't think it does, or needs to, support it natively. PAV is a chargable feature on the DS6800. I elected not to buy it on our DS6800. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/25/2006 12:17 PM >>> Presently the application is split onto several disk

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
You should probably look at the number of i/o's you are doing today across the 3 and add them up and see if that number is reasonable on your modern DASD. It's likely you'll see no problem at all, especially if most r/o where MDC will kick in for you. If you've got only 1 virtual machine doing

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD
. Thank you. Cecelia Dusha -Original Message- From: Schuh, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s Tom and Co., I see no statement that there is any intent to combine the 3 existing

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Lloyd Fuller
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:27:31 -0400, David Boyes wrote: >> We currently have 3390 mod 3 defined volumes. The customer requires a >> larger mini disk size than what will fit on a 3390 mod 3. We are >planning >> to create 3390 mod 9s for their larger mini disks. > >If it's a CMS user, use SFS. Tha

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread David Boyes
> We currently have 3390 mod 3 defined volumes. The customer requires a > larger mini disk size than what will fit on a 3390 mod 3. We are planning > to create 3390 mod 9s for their larger mini disks. If it's a CMS user, use SFS. That's exactly what it's for, and all those restrictions are pret

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Lloyd Fuller
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:55:39 -0500, Stephen Frazier wrote: >VM only allows one I/O per disk at a time. If this is a CMS mini disk then >there >will be no impact as CMS mini disks are not normally shared for write by >multiple users. Disk cache will probably hide an effect on read sharing. If it

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
VM only allows one I/O per disk at a time. If this is a CMS mini disk then there will be no impact as CMS mini disks are not normally shared for write by multiple users. Disk cache will probably hide an effect on read sharing. If it is a Linux disk then there is no impact because Linux doesn't l

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Brian Nielsen
Cecelia, Since I know your environment (z/VM with NOMAD databases on a DS6800), I wouldn't expect any measurable performance hit from using mod 9s. With raid technology, the concern should be directed more at balancing th e I/O rate across LCU's rather than at the device level within an LCU.

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
Tom Duerbusch Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s If you were near the performance limits of your current (3) 3390-3 volumes, then you don't want to combine them to a 3390-9. To really know, you need to kno

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Tom Duerbusch
If you were near the performance limits of your current (3) 3390-3 volumes, then you don't want to combine them to a 3390-9. To really know, you need to know the I/O rates on the 3 volumes. Also, you need to know what dasd you are actually using. Modern dasd (raid that is), with sufficient cac

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
3 verses 3390 Mod 9s > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusha, Cecelia > Ms. WHS/ITMD > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:03 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s >

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
This is a case for using the Shared File System. ___ Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "Impossible is just an opinion." =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD =>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 20

Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusha, Cecelia > Ms. WHS/ITMD > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:03 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s > > I have a question that pertains to performan