Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Howard. Try the following: 1) create another VM user id with the proper privileges. Call it, say, MAINTX. 2) create the new MAINT mindisks on the new volume,using your favorite directory manager tools. 3) logo off of MAINT 4) from MAINTX, link to both the old MAINT's minidisks, and the new

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks all...great suggestions. Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/27/2008 9:52 AM Hi, Howard. Try the following: 1) create another VM user id with the proper privileges. Call it, say, MAINTX. 2) create the new MAINT mindisks on the new volume,using your favorite directory manager tools. 3) logo

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Howard Rifkind
One addition question: Doesn't all of this (19E 19D) have some effect on the saved segments for CMS? Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/27/2008 9:52 AM Hi, Howard. Try the following: 1) create another VM user id with the proper privileges. Call it, say, MAINTX. 2) create the new MAINT mindisks

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Howard. No, there is no effect on the CMS saved segments...they are only effected if you change the their contents, not just their location. Howard Rifkind wrote: One addition question: Doesn't all of this (19E 19D) have some effect on the saved segments for CMS? Dave Jones [EMAIL

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Kris Buelens
Why an extra user? Just use MAINT, and change the addresses. I'd use the password fields to tell which is which, for example MDISK A190 3390 nnn mmm oldvol RR OLD190 TOREMOVE mmdd MDISK 0190 3390 kkk mmm newvo RR ALL And, if you have an ESM, the passwords on the MDISK records don't count

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks. One addition question: Doesn't all of this (19E 19D) have some effect on the saved segments for CMS? Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Stephen Frazier
Do the renames (MAINT--MAINTOLD and MAINTX--MAINT) in the source directory and update the object directory. That will put both into effect at the same time. With no problems with new users log on. If they logon before the DIRECTXA command they get the old disks and if the logon after the command

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks. Why an extra user? Just use MAINT, and change the addresses. I'd use the password fields to tell which is which, for example MDISK A190 3390 nnn mmm oldvol RR OLD190 TOREMOVE mmdd MDISK 0190

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Howard Rifkind
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks. Why an extra user? Just use MAINT, and change the addresses. I'd use the password fields to tell which is which, for example MDISK A190 3390 nnn mmm oldvol RR OLD190 TOREMOVE mmdd MDISK 0190 3390 kkk mmm newvo RR ALL And, if you have

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Stephen Frazier
If you are moving MAINT 190 you must use DDR to copy all of it. If you move MAINT 19E and you use DDR then you don't have to save CMS after it is moved. With any other disk you can save the FORMAT step and the ACCESS. Your plan would work if you are careful. If you just comment out the

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Stephen, that's what I thought and you confirmed the issue with those people already linked to disks in question. Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/27/2008 11:58 AM If you are moving MAINT 190 you must use DDR to copy all of it. If you move MAINT 19E and you use DDR then you don't

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:43:21AM -0400,Howard Rifkind Wrote: } Now is it save to swap the 1193 to 193 although several user have access to the 193. In the directory I'm going to comment out the original 193 and give the 1193 mini the 193 address. (your comments please) Don't just delete

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Michael Coffin
Actually, if your ESM is VM:Secure you don't have to worry about any of this. He'll happily let you move R/O minidisks AND automatically reclaim the old extent after ALL links to it have been severed. As long as you aren't changing the size of the disk, I believe he'll copy it track by track

Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

2008-06-27 Thread Kris Buelens
If you use Dirmaint: use the CLEAN option for a DMDDISK or CMDISK (delete/change minidisk): the DATAMOVE tries to get an exclusive link. Only when that succeeds, the minidisk is cleared after which it becomes free for re-use. Without CLEAN, the problem is not only that current users of old