Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information

2006-06-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
rom: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Gribbin, EDS Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information Further to the comments regarding sharing of DASD between CMS

Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information

2006-06-27 Thread Jeff Gribbin, EDS
Further to the comments regarding sharing of DASD between CMS users and OS - this was routine behaviour at a former employer of mine (back when DASD was always in short supply). We would format the DASD on the OS side , allocate a dataset covering the back end - and then zap the VTOC to flag

Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information

2006-06-26 Thread Thomas Kern
I remember hearing about a site that had ALL of its VM volumes available to its MVS system and had MVS datasets for every minidisk defined. They had all of the CP areas listed as minidisks too (Checkpoint, Directory, Page, Spool, etc). I think they did FDR backups and were able to restore full mini

Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information

2006-06-26 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Works fine, for now. Just overlaying minidisks (or a minidisk over a full pack minidisk), will work just fine, until the other side tried to write on it. In this case, if you do a CMS Format, your MVS file will be wiped out. If the mdisk doesn't overlay the MVS VTOC, MVS will still report the fi

Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information

2006-06-26 Thread Nix, Robert P.
Only slightly off topic, but long ago, just to see what would happen, we allocated an MVS dataset, and then mapped a CMS minidisk over the dataset's allocation, and everyone was still happy and running. As long as everyone agrees to what's been done, there shouldn't be any fussing. -- Robert

Re: Volume with minidisks has no allocation information

2006-06-20 Thread Richard Schuh
Tom Cluster wrote: Hello, VM experts, I'm preparing myself for teaching the mysteries of VSE and VM systems work and I'm reminded that when one prepares to teach something one discovers many holes and uncertainties in one's own knowledge. Today I thought I'd educate myself about IPL bootstr