Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-28 Thread Rick Barlow
Thank you to all who have made suggestions to Mark. I have shared a lot of additional researhc with him. I have discussed this on a couple of different occassions with RSCS development teams. The only RSCS link that meets the current requirements is the MRJE link. An SNARJE link will not work

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/26/2008 at 10:02 EDT, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we have VM/RSCS appearing as a RJP workstation to JES3 using EP and a 3745, can it do the same using the SNA protocol to look like a 3770 device, but minus the 3745? Your best bet is to try it. Create

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-26 Thread David Boyes
Doesn't JES3 speak TCP/IP these days?  If so, use the TCP/IP NJE driver to connect RSCS to JES3.  I think it does (or it's trivial to use our NJE Bridge to provide an impedance matcher), but it sounds like the original setup has some kind of modified RJE exit on the JES3 side that sets

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our VM systems are already connected to JES3 using NJE via SNA. The problem is that when the jobs are submitted via NJE they are considered remote jobs. When they are submitted via the Bisync RJP connection, they

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-26 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
Since we have VM/RSCS appearing as a RJP workstation to JES3 using EP and a 3745, can it do the same using the SNA protocol to look like a 3770 device, but minus the 3745? Thanks.  Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991)   From:The IBM z/VM

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-26 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
I'm not sure what the 'JL' command is but it sounds like you want your job sysout, jesmsg, etc. to stay over on the JES3 side. You might try editing the jcl on the VM side to include a //*MAIN ORG statement to override the origin similar to //*MAIN ORG=jes3node.LOCAL where jes3node is your zOS BDT

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-26 Thread David Boyes
That would probably work for output, but if they're used to job progress messages on VM from JES via NJE msgs, that would break message routing, I think. Worth a try, though. Rob's idea is intriguing; the approach of letting a service machine mung the JCL into IEBGENR and submitting it via

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-26 Thread David Boyes
Since we have VM/RSCS appearing as a RJP workstation to JES3 using EP and a 3745, can it do the same using the SNA protocol to look like a 3770 device, but minus the 3745? If I'm reading the RSCS docs correctly, no. The RJE drivers really do expect a physical line, as far as I can tell. The

VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-25 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
We have an old process that is used to support submitting jobs from VM to JES3. The current process uses a 3745 running EP on it. Here's the EP configuration for them: The RSCS Side: *## EPNCPAB GROUP DIAL=NO, X LNCTL=BSC, X

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-25 Thread Ray Waters
We have NJE connections between our VSE guests and RSCS connected via Virtual CTCA as VSE runs as a guest under VM. Does you JES system run under VM? If so a virtual CTCA will work or if not, an emulated CTCA connection. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-25 Thread Kris Buelens
Doesn't JES3 speak TCP/IP these days? If so, use the TCP/IP NJE driver to connect RSCS to JES3. 2008/9/25 Ray Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have NJE connections between our VSE guests and RSCS connected via Virtual CTCA as VSE runs as a guest under VM. Does you JES system run under VM? If

Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.

2008-09-25 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
Our VM systems are already connected to JES3 using NJE via SNA. The problem is that when the jobs are submitted via NJE they are considered remote jobs. When they are submitted via the Bisync RJP connection, they are considered a locally submitted job. We want the JES3 system to keep thinking