Re: VM history question

2009-07-14 Thread Chip Davis
Absolutely right, Alan. That's what I get for wading through my emails from the top (most recent). I was composing a thread-closing post based on his reply when I saw your note. Sir Lynn does us amateur VM historians a great service with his encyclopedic records and recall. Not to mention

Re: VM history question

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Savit
Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com said: Surely Sir Lynn would know off the top of his head, and have ALL the gory details in his astonishingly complete personal records. I'm definitely no substitute for Sir Lynn, but I remember DCSS and DMKSNT in VM/370 Release 3 PLC 8, which is where I

Re: VM history question

2009-07-13 Thread Chip Davis
Jeff, yours may be the earliest reference to saved segments so far. Is the named segment you mention the same concept? That would push implementation of the idea back into the CP/67 days. -Chip- On 7/13/09 20:15 Jeff Savit said: I was porting the CP/67 port of LISP/MTS to VM/370, and

Re: VM history question

2009-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/14/2009 at 12:12 EDT, Chip Davis c...@aresti.com wrote: Jeff, yours may be the earliest reference to saved segments so far. Is the named segment you mention the same concept? That would push implementation of the idea back into the CP/67 days. I thought Sir Lynn's posts on

VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Chip Davis
Though I'm not sure if it was On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-Five I suspect that Hardly a man is now alive Who remembers that famous day and year ... when shared segments were implemented in VM. It seems to me that it predated the VM/370 SEPP/BSEPP days when I started, but there's

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Ivan Warren
Chip Davis wrote: ... when shared segments were implemented in VM. It seems to me that it predated the VM/370 SEPP/BSEPP days when I started, but there's been many a synapse lost since then. VM/370 R6 does have DCSS (DisContiguous Shared Segments IIRC) - Even without SEPP or BSEPP. But

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread P S
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Chip Davis wrote: ... when shared segments were implemented in VM. It seems to me that it predated the VM/370 SEPP/BSEPP days when I started, but there's been many a synapse lost since then. VM/370 R6 does have DCSS

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Ivan Warren
P S wrote: DCSS = DisContiguous *SAVED* Segment. They aren't necessarily shared. Doh ! Of course ! thanks for the correction --Ivan

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Chip Davis
Oh, I vividly remember the joys of DMKSNT and managing DCSSes, and of trying to squeeze everything below the 16Meg line yet above the VMSIZE. It seemed that the very users who needed access to the most packages also had to have the largest VMs. Things are *MUCH* better now that nearly

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Ivan Warren
Chip Davis wrote: Oh, I vividly remember the joys of DMKSNT and managing DCSSes, and of trying to squeeze everything below the 16Meg line yet above the VMSIZE. It seemed that the very users who needed access to the most packages also had to have the largest VMs. Things are *MUCH* better now

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 04:01:34PM +,Chip Davis Wrote: I would think it would have been sometime in the early 70's, so I guess it might have been in the first release of VM/370, but I'm having trouble tracking it down. Caution; going on rusty memory here but ISTR that CP-67 had the

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Mike Walter
complete personal records. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates. (Sent from the wee keyboard on a Blackberry.) - Original Message - From: Chip Davis [c...@aresti.com] Sent: 07/12/2009 04:01 PM GMT To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM history question Oh, I vividly remember the joys