On 10/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> he will def. be barefoot in back; has been for ages. i am currently
> trying him barefoot in front, mostly b/c our farrier sucks, but i'm not
> considering him well-transitioned yet and may decide to re-shoe him in
> front before the sh
--- Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been trying to sell Harley for 6 months. Now
> tomorrow someone is going to look at him. I am
> freaking out because I don't really know if I want
> to sell him. <<
I know how you feel, Lorraine. I had been trying to
sell my TWH, Raven, and wh
On 9/10/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > we are thinking of a guard dog, but we have three house dogs. Wont it
> > be lonely out there? and will it attack the house dogs when they go
> > outside?
>
> I went to a seminar about herd guard dogs at a Fiber Fair (alpacas,
> llamas, moh
> yesterday on our ride an appaloosa ridden by someone I just met that
> day went into distress, and I honestly think he was fighting for his
> life tho everyone else thought he was "just overheated" or "out of
> shape" or "too fat".
How boneheaded. I'm glad you reacted Janice--at least there w
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 04:56:05PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
> > it'll be interesting to see him among other icelandics after we cleaned
> > up at the open-breed two-phase :)
>
>
> Are you going in natural? (no noseband, no shoes, no boots, treeless?)
i don't know yet.
noseband: stjarni usually
my spare time went to working with Tivar, and treating his ulcers, etc
I know a few other Icelandic Horses with ulcers; I think they had the "too
much, too soon" not-so-gentle start.
Karen, can you recap a little about ulcers... how to tell if your horse has
them, symptoms, what to do, etc.
Our vets will prescribe light riding as part of a therapy for returning to
work, but only after the chronic phase is past.
Nancy
My trail mare, Ljosbra, went last year and won several ribbons including a
couple of first places. She had never been in a show. I did not change
anything about the way that I ride her except a bath and her custom fitted
Schleese dressage saddle. (It looks much better in a show than my B
Say your horse has some undiagnosed soreness or lameness; would you
continue on in his regular activities or should you change something /
everything?
No, not at all. Eitill had an abscess open up last fall right before we were
to leave for a trail riding weekend. He was mostl
>I can't think why anyone would ride a sore horse.
There are a FEW injuries that do better some exercise, but I'm VERY careful to
get a vet's opinion before I proceed with riding a sore horse. I sure
wouldn't want to get myself into a position where it was hard to change my mind
- as in
We certainly don't transport to an event with a lame/sore horse.
We immediately go to rest while we sort out what comes next. Vet? Change
of tack? Farrier? Chiropractor? Accupuncture?
I can't think why anyone would ride a sore horse.
Nancy
> A lot of people ride without dropped nosebands, so I am sure many of
> the horses will not have them. Shoes are no longer required in shows,
> so I wouldn't be surprised so see some horses without them.
That will be great to see!
> I would be happy to take photos. Are you interested in the
> I'm not sure I will feel confident enough to ride her out in a group
> without the added psychological boost of knowing I can definitely stop
> her if I really need to, which I don't always have from a bitless
> bridle. My problem, not the horse's.
Maybe wear the bit with an extra set of reins
> If something is wrong, like the saddle is pinching, some pain thing
> somewhere, he will put his ears back a little and when I cue to go
> will actually walk backwards wringing his tail and head tossing. He
> used to buck I hear, and I bet he would if I just kept trying to make
> him go instead
> it'll be interesting to see him among other icelandics after we cleaned
> up at the open-breed two-phase :)
Are you going in natural? (no noseband, no shoes, no boots, treeless?)
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
I'm not telling Bruce.
We have had Rocky, an orange wing Amazon for about 20 years. He doesn't
talk, but he laughs just like me. Siggy, an Indian Ringneck Parakeet (gone
where good birds go) did call the dog, "Emily", clear as a bell.
Nancy
>>> How sad. Isn't 31 young for a parrot to die?
I'm not sure that anyone really knows. Rumor has it that the bigger
parrots, Grays, Amazons and macaws, can live up to 100 years, but "average"
is just a guess. Parrots aren't registered to an owner, and since they live
so long, often outliving
A lot of people ride without dropped nosebands, so I am sure many of
the horses will not have them.
Just to be fair, though, we should point out that, up until maybe two years
ago, it was against FEIF rules to use a dropped noseband with a shanked
Icelandic bit. So, it's not exactly innova
How sad. Isn't 31 young for a parrot to die? Bruce has always wanted an
African Gray.
Nancy
How sad. He was a very cool bird.
Cherie
>>Would someone please give me a quick lesson in the difference between
a sidepull, a hackamore, a bosal and a bitless bridle (like a Dr Cook)
and where they put pressure. I was riding Mura in a sidepull this
weekend and some people we ran into on the trail were amazed that she
behaves so well -
For all of you parrot owners, you might be saddened to hear that Alex, the
African Gray Parrot died recently. http://www.alexfoundation.org/
More information on the amazing legacy this bird leaves on:
http://www.alexfoundation.org/index_%20new.htm
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
No virus fou
Would someone please give me a quick lesson in the difference between
a sidepull, a hackamore, a bosal and a bitless bridle (like a Dr Cook)
and where they put pressure. I was riding Mura in a sidepull this
weekend and some people we ran into on the trail were amazed that she
behaves so well - thi
I love foxes, too. Once, in West Virginia, when I was mowing hay at
twilight, a fox followed me around and around the field, pouncing on
mice and rats as I uncovered their nests. Quite an opportunist!
Now, in Georgia, I listen to the "conversations" at night and marvel
at their ability to change
Judy
A lot of people ride without dropped nosebands, so I am sure many of
the horses will not have them. Shoes are no longer required in shows,
so I wouldn't be surprised so see some horses without them. I am sure
that everyone with or without nosebands or shoes will be welcome.
I would be happ
RIVENDALE FARM PARELLI TOURNAMENT! Saturday, September 29, 2007
For the NC residents: you should notice where Lancaster, SC is. It's just
south of Charlotte, maybe 30-40 minutes from me - very close to the NC
border.
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Amber lives about 8 miles from me and we occassionally ride together. She
is QUITE a character and a very nice person. In addition to her endurance
riding and the breeding of gaited endurance horses she provides full time
care for a 74 year old retarded sister and has for many years.
Nancy
No, I just happened across the photo on a website one day and thought in the
photos they chose to use that he looked like a black giraffe. Photography
is such an iffy thing, but most owners would want to choose the best photo
they had available.
Nancy
>Mic, can you describe what you do?
I don't do much at all under saddle, as I'm large and I don't think
it's fair on the young horses who don't have the muscles or fitness to
carry a rider, let alone one my size. However - I do start them. My
own horses only, so they are used to me and my ways.
Hi Judy,
>>>Anyone know if there are icelandic-style trainers that train for natural
gait?
I don't consider myself an Icelandic-style trainer because we start our
horses as we would any breed of horse and did so long before getting into
Icelandics. Different movement exercises, leading through g
>>How about any icelandic-style trainers that start horses bitless?
> Yes, there are some of those here.
> and me! ; )
Mic, can you describe what you do?
How long are they ridden bitless?
What type of exercises do you do?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 10:51:59AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
> > November 16-18 - Kentucky Icelandic Horse Show at the Kentucky Horse
> > Center
>
> Rich, do you think there will be any horses without nosebands? barefoot?
if i can get transportation, stjarni will be there in his caveson.
he'll at
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:45:27 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyone know if there are icelandic-style trainers that train for natural
>gait?
I don't know of any particularly - most of them do aim for tolt.
However, some trainers here, if the horse does not show any ability or
aptitude for gait, are happy to a
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:45:58 -0700, you wrote:
>How about any icelandic-style trainers that start horses bitless?
Yes, there are some of those here.
www.icelandichorses.co.uk (Janice Hutchinson)
http://www.oakfield-icelandics.co.uk/ (my ex, Nick)
several who don't have websites...
and me! ; )
M
>>>Are there any icelandic-style trainers who train for natural gait?
>>To answer this question you have to be more spesific with your question.
>
If an Icelandic Horse is more conformed to fox trot, are there trainers
who
recognize, encourage, and accept that natural gait for that part
> November 16-18 - Kentucky Icelandic Horse Show at the Kentucky Horse
> Center
Rich, do you think there will be any horses without nosebands? barefoot?
Will you get pictures for us?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
>>>In some horses the top of the S may be a short curve, or a long curve;
>>>same with the bottom of the S.
>>> A horse with a short curve at the top, and a long curve at the bottom,
>>> will be different than the neck of a horse with a long curve at the top,
>>> and short curve at the bottom.
>> From the Iceland Review:
>>
>> Tölt is unique to the Icelandic horse.
>
> Are there any icelandic-style trainers who train for natural gait?
How about any icelandic-style trainers that start horses bitless?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
November 16-18 - Kentucky Icelandic Horse Show at the Kentucky Horse
Center, Lexington, KY. Contact Gudmar Petursson at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or www.gudmar.com.
I tried ponying Dagur today for the first time. It
was off my HUGE MFT. Dagur wanted to go way faster
than Harley did. So I took Dagur for a walk with a
stud chain and yanked the hell out of him Just
kidding. He did great. We had a nice walk. And it
was only 99 degrees out.
Lorraine
> What do you think about the neck on the second horse here, the black one:
> http://www.endurancewalkers.com/ForSale.html
Do you have a picture of him from the side? Maybe without being ridden?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Amber is somewhere in the Northwest.
http://www.applegaitnendurancehorses.com/
It's always interesting to read her stories:
http://www.applegaitnendurancehorses.com/amberadventures.html
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
RIVENDALE FARM PARELLI TOURNAMENT!
Saturday, September 29, 2007
The schedule for the day will be as follows:
10:00am- Free for all play time. Feel free to bring your horse and play
around to get comfortable with the new environment. We have a turf arena, a
covered arena, and fields you can
Yup.
Someone was laughing because when I got off my horse midway through an
endurance ride and my husband asked me what I wanted first, I said "Motrin
and food."
Nancy
I have a new idea for our riding group name - Advil and Old Lace -or
Old Lace and Advil (OLA - with a long A)
--
Laree
We had a komondor, probably not a good choice for Florida with the heavy
coat he had. We never had another problem with predators or ranging
domestic dogs after we got Hagar. We had other house and farm dogs,
including a chihuahua. It was never a problem. The chihuaha tried to get
Hagar's dinne
What do you think about the neck on the second horse here, the black one:
http://www.endurancewalkers.com/ForSale.html
Nancy
> Finally I can send some pictures
Very nice.
Can you watch the videos now?
If so, did you see my banana trees?
They're in the back, behind the big avocado tree, near the fence on the left
(sort of behind the horse's butt at the beginning of the video).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6xmBhzf
> Well, we haven't exactly talked about this before, but I did send in a
> picture of Svertla's neck. I feel sure that Svertla's neck is long enough
> to help her get a running walk going. Does the length of the neck really
> help a horse do one gait over another?
I think it can, but not neces
> we are thinking of a guard dog, but we have three house dogs. Wont it
> be lonely out there? and will it attack the house dogs when they go
> outside?
I went to a seminar about herd guard dogs at a Fiber Fair (alpacas,
llamas, mohair goats, etc) and these issues were addressed. The
problem wi
> So did not see a big difference with a tight noseband. Gonna work on
> softness tho.
Great!
Some horses accept the bit and some don't.
Some horses do not have room for the bit in their mouths which is why they
may keep opening the mouth away from the action of the bit.
Some horses have no
God bless the wisdom of old horsemen. He was not just experienced he has a
good mind. I think I'll print his words for a motto on my refrigerator.
One of the gals I ride with likes to "test" us. I have always feel honor
bound to prove my horse and I can do what her horse can do. Only recently
Well, obviously, Janice you are right about there being something wrong with
this horse. Was there water on the trail? Was he dehydrated? You can take
a pinch of skin and see how long it tents and check for anal tone.
His heart rate of 120 doesn't scare me too much, since we back off at 200,
bu
yesterday on our ride an appaloosa ridden by someone I just met that
day went into distress, and I honestly think he was fighting for his
life tho everyone else thought he was "just overheated" or "out of
shape" or "too fat". But it was only after 2.5 hours, and I was
riding Tivar who is as mu
I was constantly googling or reading Judy's list trying to
> determine what was going on with him. I realize now that his bolting
> was probably as a result of pain issues. So when I see someone with a
> narrow saddle sitting on that freaking cantle...well...I know where
> that horse will be down
mine have the same winter coat as yours wanda, here in fla. I am
thinking a little winter coat is a good thing! I think it keeps
biting flies and midges from being able to reach the actual skin. I
am going to remember that when I clip, not to clip real real close so
they will still have bug prot
we are thinking of a guard dog, but we have three house dogs. Wont it
be lonely out there? and will it attack the house dogs when they go
outside? I know someone who has a great pyrenese.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
> Yeah, I think he may need some obedience work eventually... :) He's
> normally VERY responsive, and will come when called - just friendly, because
> he hasn't had any training. The new kitty friend was just too tempting I
> think.
You can start that anytime you know, even as a very young pupp
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Robyn Schulze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
They are
> complaining about the lack of hay, so I guess it's bad all over your
> area--the whole SW maybe?
Hay might be scarce here in Ky this winter. We had 6 weeks without
rain in the spring, we are in a stretch w
I have always liked those little flat-faced dogs (all dogs, actually). At
one time we were trialing sighthounds, which have long pointy noses and long
legs, and had a pug for a lap dog. It was quite a range in dog style.
Nancy
I was hiking up on our mountain once and looked down on the flat farm land
below us There were two coyotes pouncing and playing chasing some kind of
rodent and two deer grazing calmly quite near them. I know coyotes kill
fawns, but the adult deer were not worried at all.
Nancy
>>>I liked the part in the first one when Cary called to him, he looked back
and then went "yeah right" and ran off--whee!
Yeah, I think he may need some obedience work eventually... :) He's
normally VERY responsive, and will come when called - just friendly, because
he hasn't had any training.
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:07:19 -0400, you wrote:
>I understand that they don't encourage translation. What are they afraid of?
Not making money from selling enough books, I think - I don't believe
there's any hidden agenda.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
-
>Have you tried Boa Boots with gaiters? I also sometimes use old sox that
Yes, I've tried them. I must have begged or borrowed half a dozen
different ones and nothing stays on in the mud. Kalsi's hind feet are
quite long and narrow naturally, and it's really hard to find anything
that will stay o
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:05:43 -0700, you wrote:
>I'd love to hear from anyone who has done the micro-chip process with their
>horses, as I am considering doing this too. Did you find any residual
>swelling or scarring around the implantation site??
All our horses are chipped - I think all Iceland
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