[IceHorses] Nuchal Ligament

2007-09-27 Thread Judy Ryder
By Solange Schrijer and Paul Rene van Weeren The question of how the activity of the horse's back can be described best can be traced back to the ancient world. Claudius Galenus (130-200AD) developed the concept of the 'vault roof', in which the horse's back and the upper part of the thorax cre

[IceHorses] What We See

2007-09-27 Thread Judy Ryder
What we see and notice is shaped by our experience, knowledge, focus, culture, etc. We think we see something so clearly, and the longer we see it the truer it seems. When I drive down the road, and I see "telephone poles", that's about all I see, a pole with wires on it. But my husband sees a

[IceHorses] FYI: Screwworms detected in U.S.

2007-09-27 Thread Raven
FYI: Greetings from the Louisiana Department of Agriculture & Forestry, Bob Odom Commissioner. Dr. Henry Moreau, State Veterinarian, reports that Screwworms were confirmed in Mississippi on September 21, 2007 in a dog that was imported from Trinidad. Screwworms are flesh-eating larvae (maggots) t

[IceHorses] TOTALLY OT !! Please Vote for Pansy

2007-09-27 Thread Raven
This is TOTALLY OTbut can oyou PLEASE vote for my friend's dog? Please vote for PANSY ~!! Visit http://www.thepet-boutique.com and click on "Vote for Your Favorite Dog", then please vote for PANSY, the Beagle.<:} THANKS!! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the

Re: [IceHorses] Rocky Mountain Horse

2007-09-27 Thread Judy Ryder
> Judy, who is riding him? Is that Stephanie Caldwell? Looks like her. I have no idea who the rider is, but I doubt that it's Stephanie. > Anyway, I think he looks as green as grass, and he needs a bit more > room on those reins. I think youngsters need to have a lot more use of their necks

Re: [IceHorses] OT question for Wanda and ???

2007-09-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 27/09/2007, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those of you who live where it gets really cold, do you keep chickens? > If you do, how do you keep their water from freezing? > > Nancy Sorry, I don't have any chickens yet. My neighbour keeps offering me some chicks, but I don't

[IceHorses] OT question for Wanda and ???

2007-09-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
For those of you who live where it gets really cold, do you keep chickens? If you do, how do you keep their water from freezing? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Barn ideas for Virginia

2007-09-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Well, Virginia and family bought quite a lot of acreage. Perhaps they need two or three this size. Nancy

RE: [IceHorses] t-post fence pics

2007-09-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Thanks for the pictures. I think I'll need 4 strands -- Orri was escaping at the boarding barn by slipping under the wirealthough I think it was after the ground freeze/thaw moved posts higher. How far apart should the posts be? There is some good information on the Electrobraid site.

[IceHorses] Re: Rocky Mountain Horse

2007-09-27 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Nancy Sturm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Coming three year old? We don't start our horses that young. That means, > to be in that bit, he was probably started at two or shortly after. I think they start them in those bits, they do usually start them at t

Re: [IceHorses] Rocky Mountain Horse

2007-09-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 27/09/2007, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you watch the video, what do you see? (and we all may see or notice > different things, depending on our experience or focus) Judy, who is riding him? Is that Stephanie Caldwell? Looks like her. Anyway, I think he looks as green as gr

Re: [IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/27/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A compromise that I use because I don't like the metal on metal > vibration is to put a small leather loop on the bit and attach the > clips to that. That way you have the convenience and safety of the > clips but not the vibration. What ki

Re: [IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-27 Thread Laree Shulman
On 9/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In a message dated 9/27/2007 10:07:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I am a clip girl. I love being able to take the reins > off if needed. That's just me. A compromise that I use because I don't like the m

Re: [IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-27 Thread mdpsy
In a message dated 9/27/2007 10:07:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am a clip girl. I love being able to take the reins off if needed. That's just me. Lorraine, As I am sure you already know, the presence of clips on your reins is an important safety feature

Re: [IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 27/09/2007, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a clip girl. I love being able to take the reins > off if needed. That's just me. I like to do that toothat's why I'm having buckles installed. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] Rocky Mountain Horse

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/27/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a video of a young Rocky Mountain Horse: > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=r7gaH4h2MGU I noticed the chair seat. Why did the horse keep flipping his head up? V

Re: [IceHorses] Feel

2007-09-27 Thread Judy Ryder
> By Jeanne of the Billsbook list: The following two paragraphs are quoted exactly. -Jeanne It's only through feel that a rider can make use of the lightness in the horse without creating resistance. When you can direct a horse's movements through feel, then there's understanding taking place b

Re: [IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-27 Thread Lorraine
> > No, the clips have always bothered me anyway. I > like the feel of > leather on the bit ring for some reason. > > Wanda > I am a clip girl. I love being able to take the reins off if needed. That's just me. Lorraine _

[IceHorses] where to sell a gelding?

2007-09-27 Thread janetinvt
Hi everyone! We live in southwestern Vermont with our four Icelandic Horses. We have an 8 year old gelding who hardly ever gets ridden and he is wonderful! My husband rides his mother (yup still living with Mom) and I ride his mother's best girlfriend. Our mares are 17 and plan to carry us for man

Re: [IceHorses] t-post fence pics

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/27/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I remembered I took a couple of pics that show the fence last weekend. I > can get better detail - and the posts don't have to be as close together as > shown in the second picture. Thanks for the pictures. I think I'll need 4 strands -- O

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/27/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Yes, that's the stuff--I loved how it let in the light. V > > > The only thing I can think of is that your snow loading might be different > and make it less strong and less desirable than here. But, I sure love > mine. It's a luxury that

Re: [IceHorses] Rocky Mountain Horse

2007-09-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Coming three year old? We don't start our horses that young. That means, to be in that bit, he was probably started at two or shortly after. He looks like a youngster with a nice temperment. He's resisting the bit by dropping behind the vertical, but he's pretty polite about it and may be thin

RE: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-27 Thread Cherie Mascis
>>My horses play with them and knock them off the tops. I find them all >>over the pasture. How do you both avoid that? >>Ann Our fences are welded horse wire and t posts (works fine for my Icelandics but my boss's Belgians are gradually folding the top of the wire down. Not being electric, our

[IceHorses] Re: Consider the horse

2007-09-27 Thread robyn_schulze
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By Dr. Ritter: > > This is something that I keep seeing over and over in clinics, at shows, and > other places. It concerns amateurs and professionals alike, and it > infuriates me. > > There are too many riders who

[IceHorses] Rocky Mountain Horse

2007-09-27 Thread Judy Ryder
Here's a video of a young Rocky Mountain Horse: http://youtube.com/watch?v=r7gaH4h2MGU When you watch the video, what do you see? (and we all may see or notice different things, depending on our experience or focus) Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Your horses must be very brave. Or your fence isn't electric? Ours don't mess with the fence more than once. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Bit ??

2007-09-27 Thread Judy Ryder
> "We used to call it a springsteen. I learned to use it on older > untrained horses, that still had fight in them. It could be a very > severe bit. Here's another picture: http://www.bigdweb.com/SPRINGSTEEN_BIT_P1445C825.cfm Another gal said: >>It's a driving bit. That particular one would b

Re: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-27 Thread Ann Cassidy
On 9/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Do be sure to put caps on the T posts. I had a horse get badly hurt on > one years ago. My horses play with them and knock them off the tops. I find them all over the pasture. How do you both avoid that? Ann

[IceHorses] Clipping

2007-09-27 Thread Laree Shulman
Janice, I think you mentioned you were hesitant to clip Tivar because he was suffering from the bugs a lot. I thought Doppa was, too, but I did a full body clip on her becasue she was miserable with a heavy coat already and its unusually warm this Fall and that really seemed to help the "itchies"

Re: [IceHorses] Consider the horse

2007-09-27 Thread Laree Shulman
> The list is by no means complete. These are just the most important things > that come to mind that I seem to have to repeat over and over in almost > every single lesson, especially with new students. > > > Thomas Ritter > Ritter Dressage There is a lot of good stuff in this, Judy. I really l

[IceHorses] Todays quotes

2007-09-27 Thread Laree Shulman
"My experience of horses is that they never throw away a chance to go lame" - Mark Twain or "When your horse has reached his potential, leave it. It's such a nice feeling when you and your horses are still friends." - Dr. Reiner Klimke, Olympic dressage gold medalist for Germany -- Laree

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Daily schedules

2007-09-27 Thread Laree Shulman
> Do most people vary them? I vary the times somewhat but like Karen, I try to make sure their gut never gets totally empty I have made an effort since we've moved here to volunteer to take care of other people's horses as often as I can with the stipulation that they'll return the favor. Ther

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Oh shoot, Karen, it's supposed to drain? We had the pad for the barn and also a riding ring cut into the hillside above the house and have been redirecting rain water ever since. The riding ring could probably grow rice or cranberries in the winter and it took years before we got to the barn to t

RE: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-27 Thread Karen Thomas
AND: by all means check the prevailing weather patterns. It should help that you are moving in the Fall, but you could also ask the seller. Drainage is another very important consideration. You don't want rain to puddle around your barn, or worse still, have runoff from rains run

RE: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Does anyone have photos of these T post fences? V I'll try to get you some this weekend of the one that Cary put up, using Electrobraid. It's actually a very nice fence - visible to the horses, but not obtrusive to look at. He put it up himself, very quickly. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate,

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Daily schedules

2007-09-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Do most people vary them? We do...BUT our horses always have access to at least a nominal amount of weedy/dirt-lot-type pasture. I am careful that they never let their guts get totally empty. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free E

RE: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-27 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Yes, that's the stuff--I loved how it let in the light. V The only thing I can think of is that your snow loading might be different and make it less strong and less desirable than here. But, I sure love mine. It's a luxury that didn't break the bank. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are talking about the corrugated plastic that is patterned like the > metal roofing, they aren't very expensive while you're building.I love > mine, and I certainly didn't pay a premium for them. Yes, that's the stuff--I loved how i

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AND: by all means check the prevailing weather patterns. I remember reading about siting in my text book--I want to do that with the run in shed too. V

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excellent point. Might be a good reason to live there for a year or > so, and make your determination after you've studied the prospective > site a bit. Yes--I do want to live there to get a 'feel' for it before I put down anything permanen

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Daily schedules

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/27/07, Kim Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > some people were saying it is better to vary their feeding > schedule. Do most people vary them? At the boarding barn they don't stick to it on the dot but it's usually around the same times. V

Re: [IceHorses] Small Barn

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the three- stall barn we built about 30 years ago. Beautiful photo. Do you have any interior shots? V

Re: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Do be sure to put caps on the T posts. I had a horse get badly hurt on > one years ago. > > > Absolutely. We always use them. Does anyone have photos of these T post fences? V