Why are they so white? Does he cut all that sole out
I think one question mark normally suffices - for a sincere question. You
know, my farrier and I actually joked about this while I was taking the
pictures. I knew if I sent the pictures of Isak's feet that someone would
jump to lecture
Very nice trim too. Marcus looks like he has a set of arms on him.
Yeah...being a farrier can be a tough job and it's a job I don't particularly
want to pick up.
Karen Thomas, NC
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Very nice trim too. Marcus looks like he has a set of arms on him.
Yeah...being a farrier can be a tough job and it's a job I don't particularly
want to pick up.
Yes, I've nipped here and there during emergencies and all I remember
is
Susan,
Bev rides in a Specialized. The saddle fitter that was out really loved it,
probably because she had finally managed to shim it perfectly.
Abby and I both tried it and thought it was the absolutely most
uncomfortable saddle we ever sat in. Bev uses a sheepskin seat cover and so
does
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There was one Icelandic (Svertla) who only needed just a little toe
trimmed, and that was all.
Our farrier was out the other day. He's a real odd duck, but one of the
things I appreciate about him is that he trims the horses as individuals.
Hunter is shod because of the terrain he goes
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Judy
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Here's a very interesting Icelandic Horse photo:
http://iceryder.blogspot.com/2007/12/arctic-ponies.html
Judy
Here's a set of interesting photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fridgeir_gudmundsson/sets/72157602681346873/show/
Judy
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And he said If all horses were like Tosca, I'd be out of work. He
didn't trim anything. She's the one (other than Hunter) that's being
ridden.
Another consideration - don't you generally have rockier soil in Oregon than
we do in my part of NC? There are small areas of rocky terrain here, and
To me Isak's feet looked like they grew a lot and had to be brought back.
If feet like that aren't trimmed back in that manner, then that's when the
whole shape of the foot can change and too long toes start happening or
underslung heels.
Yep, the more feet you look at, the more natural
Another consideration - don't you generally have rockier soil in Oregon
than
we do in my part of NC?
From the photos I've seen of your beautiful trails, I'd say yes, but like
many generalizations, that may not be completely true.
We have hardly a rock here on our 25 acres, but some
Skye, can you get pictures of these saddles on the horses, a few taken
from the front, side, and rear so that we can see how they fit?
I'd really like to see them too, because I've never seen an Astund that
wasn't pretty darned narrow - at least on the Icelandic scale of saddles.
Karen
In a message dated 12/29/2007 10:02:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Thank you for your reply to my problem. The Astund is a size 18 and I am a
size six jeans with very little padding in my rear end. I have no clue about
the sizing on these
Thanks Kaaren. I have been stalling because I am waiting for some money,
which I expected to have months ago. When it comes - and it will - I would
like to demo the dressage saddle on your website - I think it's G4 .
Nancy
In a message dated 12/30/2007 5:48:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, sturmranch
Now that is a saddle I can get into. Do they fit the Icelandic's though? I
just sold my Crates that I loved but it was too long for him and to big for me
also since I have lost weight in the eight years I rode in
In a message dated 12/29/2007 9:14:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Susan why not the saddlite? It seems like a nice saddle also. Looks smaller
than the other even though it measures the same. Maybe flatter seat? Sylvia
Here's the Watson on Yrsa.
It looks like the bars sit past her last rib; do you
recall if it did?
I just posted this info on the treelesssaddle list:
An Officer's Notes by Captain R.M. Parker (U.S.
Cavalry), published in 1917:
Fitting The Saddle
There are six axioms in saddle fitting:
In a message dated 12/30/2007 7:58:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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Thanks for the picture. Do you know what size that saddle was? Boy those are
nice looking saddles. Sylvia
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Input from SaddleRight:
Saddles are major problems for all horses. Here's why:
Saddles just can't fit horses correctly.
If you look closely at your horse's back, you will
see signs of atrophy in the back and hip muscles
(muscle shrinkage.) These muscles must build and
develop under
Here's the Watson on Yrsa. Please forgive the table linens. It was
someone else's brand new saddle and I didn't want to put it directly on her
back, but I wanted to see it without a thick pad. It was a very nice fit,
but she was three years old when this was taken. As everyone promised, she
In a message dated 12/30/2007 8:19:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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Karen, I am just so afraid that the treeless saddles are going to be not
secure enough for me. The saddle I rode in was a treeless that my butt hurt
with. Strange name and I don't
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thought it was the absolutely most uncomfortable
saddle we ever sat in.
What made it uncomfortable? The seat or the way it
sat you or the placement of the stirrups?
We both tried Amber Applegate's Watson distance
runner
Karen, I am just so afraid that the treeless saddles are going to be not
secure enough for me. The saddle I rode in was a treeless that my butt hurt
with. Strange name and I don't remember it but it was Icelandic saddle and
straight leg panels, very uncomfortable for me. My back hurt because
people may have all ready posted this
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The greatest enemy of the truth very
On Dec 29, 2007 10:25 PM, Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't forget Flex Panel saddles. ;p] I ride in a Reactor Panel
endurance saddle. For Huginn, it was one of two saddles that worked
for him. And the RP saddle was the only one of the two that also
worked for me.
If i was gonna go with a
On Dec 30, 2007 11:28 AM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Short distances are one
thing, but, as you know, start going the longer
distances and comfort is utmost to you and the horse.
boy you can say that again. I have a thorowgood wide tree that fits
my fox great and i love it but
Short distances are one thing, but, as you know, start going the longer
distances and comfort is utmost to you and the horse.
Yep, and one thing you can bank on: if the saddle won't work for short
distances, you can darned sure bet it won't work for longer distances. Sina
would refuse to leave
We both tried Amber Applegate's Watson distance runner
http://www.rlwatsonsaddles.com/distance%20runner.htm and liked it
I'm so glad that I only have one horse to fit. ;p] That is one of
the things I like about my RP saddle, I can adjust it to fit Huginn's
body as he changes through out the
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Judy
http://iceryder.net/happynewyear.html
Thanks Judy. Hoover is in the other room, but he particularly enjoyed the
fireworks - he's still making popping noises. Hoover is SUCH a party bird!
:)
Karen Thomas, NC
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and I was amazed. It talked about how some horses were bred in
certain areas for meat, for racing, for show, for draft. It named
studs that are allowed to roam free and breed for draft. And that
these are where the very heavy cannon bone icelandics are generally
from, actually named the
I love the way the light snow sits in the trees.
Hopefully tomorrow will be like this and we will ride.
Looks just beautiful. Almost makes me want to be there!?!
Ferne Fedeli
Hi NancyYrsa is such a pretty girl! Do keep in mind that at her
age, she still has many years left to grow. Are you sure you want to
invest in a treed saddle for her? Anywho...before I get accused of
trying to tell you what to do by some list members, please believe
me...I am not. ;]
am just so afraid that the treeless saddles are going to be not
secure enough for me
Hi..that is a very valid concern. In the long run, you need to do what
is best for you and your horse. Regardless of what others may think.
If you need the security of a treed saddle, buy one and enjoy the
Janice,
I have ridden in my BMSS since 2001 and have NEVER had it slip. I
mount from the ground. I would never say it is a saddle for everyone but,
like
all saddles, some are good for one person and not another.
Karen..it's hard to tell from the photos, but did your farrier trim
the soles flat? Or are they concave? Not criticizing...just asking.
;]
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
I have ridden in my BMSS since 2001 and have NEVER had it slip. I
mount from the ground. I would never say it is a saddle for everyone but,
like
all saddles, some are good for one person and not another.
Isn't that the truth. I had a BMSS for about two months and I never
felt so
Why are they so white? Does he cut all that sole out
I think cuz...Isak has white hooves. ;]Huginn is a pinto and also
has white hooves and really white soles.
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me
My farrier trims each horse's feet as they need to be trimmed. He
doesn't try to make any formula work for all horses. He also doesn't
try to trim my QH's feet any differently from my TWH's feet, or from
my Icelandic's feet.
He DOES make adjustments as needed for each INDIVIDUAL horse.
that is a
Yes, I've nipped here and there during emergencies and all I
remember is that my thighs, back, arms, neck, and shoulders were
horribly soremy feet were okay though ;).
That's why I pay my trimmer. HA! i know that some folks enjoy doing
their own trimming, not me.
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl
have ridden in my BMSS since 2001 and have NEVER had it slip
Hi...I loved my BMSS! It was the most comfy saddle ever. I also never
had it slip. But...it just didn't work for Huginn's back. ~:p[ I
know that some of my friends who tried my BMSS did not like how it
spread their hips, but for e
Astund is a very secure seat
I tried the Astund Special a few times and I agree it's a secure
beautiful saddle. It was also a very comfy saddle for me. But...the
gullet was way too narrow and the panels were too long for Huginn. ;]
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the
What made it uncomfortable? The seat or the way it
sat you or the placement of the stirrups?
The seat. It was hard as a rock.
Nancy
Do you know why RW
keeps changing the name of his saddles and company?
You might want to ask Amber. She loves the saddle but has some sort of beef
with one of the vendors - the one whose website is on the link I posted for
Sylvia.
Nancy
In a message dated 12/30/2007 1:00:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Raven, please let me know how you like the saddle you ride Huggin with, it
looks and sounds great. The gullet on those saddles are??? Did you special
order this one or what? I
On Dec 28, 2007 9:33 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking at the side of the horse, just place a tape or
ruler at the side, beginning at the corner of the lip,
or the end of the lip. Just the measurement from the
side.
Remeasured and got 4 inch lips with 4 inch measurement from
On Dec 29, 2007 10:14 PM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also find that there are two main types of coats with Icelandics
regardless of where they live. Some grow a long coat and some have shorter
but a really dense coat.
Karen said-
I don't really think that horses here have longer
On Dec 29, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Karen Thomas wrote:
I realize that I haven't sent any pictures of my little eye-candy
boy, Isak,
lately. He's about 19 months old now. That's daddy's head on
mama's body.
Amazing! If I were to see just the heads side by side, I would not be
able to tell
On Dec 29, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Robyn Hood wrote:
Hi Nancy
Vernon is in British Columbia about 5 hours east of Vancouver (the
west
coast) and 2 1/2 hours north of the US border - about 6 hours drive
from
Spokane. Probably a little far for you but you could ride one of our
horses.
Robyn
Raven, please let me know how you like the saddle you ride Huggin
with, it looks and sounds great.
Hi Sylvia, I love my saddle~! Here's a link
http://www.reactorpanel.com/ I have the endurance saddle.
The gullet on those saddles are???
The saddles are flex panel saddles, and there are
doesnt look all white! lots of dark objects that must look really
different to them. Jaspar is terribly spooky after dark, but every
time we have ridden at nite was in a full moon in areas with lots of
white sand where every little bush stands out in stark relief. also
maybe they saw their own
LIZ GRAVES
Harold Roy Miller
I was one of those know-it-all horse trainer cynics
who wasn't about to waste my good money on show-off
clinics.
But then the gait of my beloved Fox Trotter started to
worsen
so in desperation I attended a gaited exposition in
person.
Liz Graves was in town, a very
Amazing! If I were to see just the heads side by side, I would not be
able to tell wich is which. Anneliese, Melnir's first mama.
It’s funny the bits of each parent you’ll see in the babies. Landi has his
mom’s pretty head, his own jet-black coloring, his dad’s physique (although
I think
So much for my theory!
I have a lot of theories too. To me, that's just the best part about owning a
larger (to me) herd. It's fascinating to watch the horses, formulate theories
and then watch most of the theories be disproved.
Karen Thomas
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Karen..it's hard to tell from the photos, but did your farrier trim the
soles flat? Or are they concave? Not criticizing...just asking.
I guess I'd have to say that they are basically kind of flat, with just a
little natural concavity around the middle - he doesn't scoop out the soles
or
A, Bia! I LOVED that! Thank you (and I also liked your beneficial
lessons quote).
Mary
Bright blessings Bia!
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
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Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Bia, that was WONDERFUL... thank you and Happy new year to you too..
--
The Soul of a Horse ~
Together we can send this book to the top of the Best Sellers list...
thesoulofahorse.com/Pre-Order-Reviews.htm
Oooh, I would not recommend buying a treed saddle to fit a
three-year-old...heck, not even a five-year-old, if you expect it to last
very long!
As Raven mentioned, it is not just the changes in the shape of a horse's
back that come with maturity, but the changes in the shape of our horses as
It looks like the bars sit past her last rib; do you
recall if it did?
I really don't remember and no matter how it fit her last summer, she's a
different pony today - much rounder and more substantially made.
Nancy
Is everyone else getting rain finally? Gosh, I think (hope) this means our
drought is about over. For the first month in ages, we got greater than the
average rainfall for December. Of course - I've been home for over a week,
mostly confined to the house... It has rained ALL day today.
Karen
As Raven mentioned, it is not just the changes in the shape of a
horse's back that come with maturity, but the changes in the shape of our
horses as the season progresses. Because I ride all year, this is not quite
so much of a problem, but lots of endurance riders take several months off
when
Fun Bia!
Farsælt Komandi Ár!
Cheryl
Icelandic Sheepdogs Icelandic Horses
www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Because I ride all year, this is not quite so much of a problem, but
lots of endurance riders take several months off when the weather is
bad and begin the season with a fat horse and end it with a lean one
with lots of change in the back's shape in those months
Nancy...that would be us. Our
Wooo, no hands!
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Judy
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I have to think of what makes me feel secure also. The English saddle just
does not feel secure to me. The endurance feels good to me, western is too much
saddle. The Australian is not
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Judy
What a beautiful horse! This is exactly what I am looking for. Can you
tell me a little about this horse. Are you the breeder? Thanks~jules
Julie Sandoval
Easy To Spot
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With a six year old gelding you would think that he would stay about the
same for a while anyway. Except for weight changing his shape some but he has
tiny little withers and a
The sensation Hybrid is maybe secure enough for a treeless? When I
have to ride sitting straight up with my legs straight down I am miserable.
Maybe its age and the pain gets to me easy. Both the used saddles on the
tack trader are straight down legs type. I think?
Sylvia, you can order a
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Trot
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Look how far back on his loins she's sitting. Poor horse.
Karen Thomas, NC
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have to think of what makes me feel secure also. The English
saddle just does not feel secure to me. The endurance feels good to
me, western is too much saddle. The Australian is not comfortable
i love endurance saddles, love the deep seats and no horn.
The sensation Hybrid is maybe secure
trot
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess
Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
http://www.islandpferdegestuet-osterbyholz.de/eldirfeif%20zwei.jpg
Trot
But there are three legs in the air and one slightly grounded; and the
diagonals aren't quite the same.
What does this mean? what does it tell us?
Judy
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From FEIF's website:
FEIF answers Cavallo
A recent issue of the German horse magazine Cavallo contained a report about
the World Championships 2007 for Icelandic horses. In this article the
authors comment negatively on the riding style of some riders, and present
some pictures of particular
With a six year old gelding you would think that he would stay about the
same for a while anyway.
Not necessarily. Hunter is eleven, gets a lot of riding, and the shape of
his back changes during any given year.
a Sinergist?
It's Synergist. When I first saw pictures of the Synergist
Vernon is in British Columbia about 5 hours east of Vancouver (the west
coast) and 2 1/2 hours north of the US border - about 6 hours drive from
Spokane. Probably a little far for you but you could ride one of our
horses.
Ha, Robyn, I have heard that story. I remember it took me over
Nancy...is Abby your daughter? She's beautiful.
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
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Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Thank you, Raven. She is one of two birth daughters, both slim blondes.
Nancy
We got a rare snow, and yesterday decided to go ride
in it to take pics. I still have to tweak my helmet
cam to get the right angle, so my videos didn't
That is so cool. I miss Minden.
Lorraine
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