Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful Sunny Winter Day for a Ride

2008-02-07 Thread Lorraine
> Got a little video of our ride today: > Beautiful. Was that the lady I was supposed to meet? Lorraine Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.se

[IceHorses] Does YOUR Horse Have Gait Issues?

2008-02-07 Thread Raven
Just sharing this info: "What's The Big Deal With Gait Analysis?" with Dr. Bill Ormston is the first call of our Equine Teleseminar Equine Intensive 4 part series. The FREE Teleseminar is on Wednesday, Feb. 13, at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central, 6pm Mountain, and 5pm Pacific. Go to this page for detai

[IceHorses] What Gait / Nanna 6

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna6.html' Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

[IceHorses] Horse Power

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
http://iceryder.net/horsepower.html Horse Power Author Unknown My daughter turned sixteen years old today; which is a milestone for most people. Besides looking at baby photos and childhood trinkets with her, I took time to reflect on the young woman my daughter had become and the choices she

[IceHorses] Natural, Holistic Horse Care

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Here are a few books on natural and / or holistic horse care: http://iceryder.net/naturalholisticcare.html If you have any others to recommend to be added to the list, please let us know. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Study

2008-02-07 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:04:10PM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: > Also, a problem with the study is that they only measured appendages (legs) > and did not consider the spinal processes. let alone mental readiness for work and training. --vicka

[IceHorses] Vogue

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Heather Moffett has a new treeless saddle, called the Vogue: http://www.enlightenedequitation.com/ Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] O/T More Sophie

2008-02-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/02/2008, sarah gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Love it! I've found something for Sophie and Peppy to do when the weather gets better.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk3sXBOIErk&NR=1 Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful Sunny Winter Day for a Ride

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>How far did you go? Not too far, only about an hour as we were both pressed for time today. > Nice! Did someone video that, or did you just leave the camera on a wall? I saw a big concrete *thing* (not sure what it was, some type of access to the aquafer or whatever), so I set the camera on

Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful Sunny Winter Day for a Ride

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
>>>Got a little video of our ride today: >>>http://youtube.com/watch?v=nvH3oGzK31w Nice! Did someone video that, or did you just leave the camera on a wall? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] O/T More Sophie

2008-02-07 Thread sarah gibson
> > She's a bit sassy...but she finally does what I want. Love it! Sarah in MT

[IceHorses] NWHA Press release

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Karin Glassman 859-271-7879 National Walking Horse Association and United States Dressage Federation Announce Education Cooperative January 31, 2008 (Lexington, KY) - The United Stated Dressage Federation (USDF) and the National Walking Horse Association (NWHA) an

Re: [IceHorses] magazine article on icelandics

2008-02-07 Thread Renee Martin
> http://journals.aol.com/horsecrazy3781/DiaryoftheHorseCrazySpaz/ Correction: I just noticed the above blog is from December 2005, so the author would now be 17 or 18, not 15. -- Renee M. in Michigan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.5

Re: [IceHorses] magazine article on icelandics

2008-02-07 Thread Renee Martin
> the author is Jessica Caldwell > > Who is she? Okay, this might not be the same Jessica Caldwell, but I found a 15-year-old who owns Icelandics, says she lives on 90 acres in Tennessee, and has a blog by the same name: http://journals.aol.com/horsecrazy3781/DiaryoftheHorseCrazySpaz/ That w

Re: [IceHorses] magazine article on icelandics

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
> I really wish the other soft gaits would start getting some press > besides the standard walk, trot, canter, tolt and pace. I think she said in the article that every Icelandic has four or five gaits. That simply is not true, in my opinion, nor a good thing to say. We can help to educate Icel

Re: [IceHorses] Re: O/T Sophie

2008-02-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
> Sighand here's the pic... She's so very cute. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] magazine article on icelandics

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
the author is Jessica Caldwell Who is she? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] magazine article on icelandics

2008-02-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/02/2008, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What on earth is a "vertical gait"? That kind of defies gravity. I'd > prefer that my horses move forward, not levitate mid-air. You obviously haven't ridden Dagur ;)... Nice pics of the girl riding though. I really wish the other soft

[IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Study

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
There's a new Icelandic Horse study that has to do with age of maturation and bone fusion. It's Conclusion states: "The Icelandic horse appears to have similar radiographic closure times for most of the growth plates of its limbs as reported for large new breeds of horses developed during the

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
My energizer bunny comment was an attempt to praise the inherent endurance that many of them seem to have, but of course, this needs to be tempted with a human's better judgment and not exploited at the expense of the animal. Knowing Eitill, I know that the "energizer bunny" d

Re: [IceHorses] Picking an Icelandic for endurance

2008-02-07 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Feb 7, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Karen Thomas wrote: > But that ride showed me that Rosa, who had been an annoyingly > pissy > mare for the slower NATRC Novice rides, *did* have the "heart" for > he > longer distances and more challenging trails. > > > I don't care to put my hors

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Renee Martin
>but of course, this needs to be tempted with a human's better judgment and not exploited at > the expense of the animal. > > -- Renee M. Darnit, spell checker is supposed to know I meant "tempered" not tempted! : ) Oy! -- Renee M. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked

[IceHorses] O/T More Sophie

2008-02-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
She's a bit sassy...but she finally does what I want. For some reason she believes she must make a lot of noise and dance a round a bit before finally doing what I ask... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIwPgGz8-xw -- Wanda Saskatchewan Canada

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Renee Martin
> I liked your post Renee but I kinda wish you hadnt said the above! . . . Just cause they WILL go like the bunny doesnt mean they shouldnt be STOPPED. Agreed. Animals often don't know what is best for them in certain circumstances (and in others, they are, perhaps, smarter than their humans! ;

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Lynn Kinsky
>>> probably going to get in trouble here, but I think an >>> average horse of average fitness should be able to >>> finish 25 miles within the 6 hour limit. > > > I was going to let this slide, but ... > > Maybe, but why would you want to put your horse at risk by attempting > to > something he'

Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful Sunny Winter Day for a Ride

2008-02-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/02/2008, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh my heavens. It is glorious there. Did I see bare arms? > > Yes, it's beautiful today! What a nice trail! How far did you go? Some day I'm going to get a little GPS and actually track the length of the trails we have around here. Wand

[IceHorses] O/T Sophie

2008-02-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Sophie is trying to lure me into a game of chase the snowmanher favorite toy which she does not give up easily... -- Wanda Saskatchewan Canada

Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful Sunny Winter Day for a Ride

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
> Oh my heavens. It is glorious there. Did I see bare arms? Yes, it's beautiful today! > I should have videoed our ride. Tosca and Salsa (a young Arab mare) were > amazing, Yes, please video whatever you can get. I think it's helpful to show options of how we ride our Icelandics,and the

Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful Sunny Winter Day for a Ride

2008-02-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
> Got a little video of our ride today: Oh my heavens. It is glorious there. Did I see bare arms? I should have videoed our ride. Tosca and Salsa (a young Arab mare) were amazing, but the wind was blowing sideways, really cold. Both youngsters handled snow on the logging road, a BLM emplo

[IceHorses] Raising the Base of the Neck

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
A video by Liz Graves: http://iceryder.net/videolizbaseneck.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Our horses are nothing if not tough, determined, and many of them will go and go and go like energizer bunnies. : ) Eitill is an energizer bunny. He's an exceptional Icelandic though. I know some others will go and go like he will - Skjoni, Sina, Saga, and several of Anneliese's,

[IceHorses] Beautiful Sunny Winter Day for a Ride

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Got a little video of our ride today: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nvH3oGzK31w Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Janice McDonald
> But I think if one carefully selected the right Icelandic, and did the > proper conditioning, they could rack up miles in the sport as John has and > finish race after race. Our horses are nothing if not tough, determined, > and many of them will go and go and go like energizer bunnies. :

Re: [IceHorses] Picking an Icelandic for endurance

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
But that ride showed me that Rosa, who had been an annoyingly pissy mare for the slower NATRC Novice rides, *did* have the "heart" for he longer distances and more challenging trails. I don't care to put my horses through situations where they are "annoyingly pissy" just to com

[IceHorses] Re: at a gait magazine

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Fiedler
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Jeannette Hoenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I only see short thick necks that look very strong. Has anyone else got the issue?Jeannette > I agree! I haven't seen one Icelandic with a long neck. In fact, their thick necks fit well with their thick bodies. I

[IceHorses] OT-Make every vote count!

2008-02-07 Thread Janice McDonald
Florida has a campaign to have a new state song. The old one is "Old Folks At Home" which has some overtones of rascist language since Stephen foster wrote it at a time when he could make money selling sheet music for "minstrel shows" (You may not be aware the great songwriter Stephen Foster died

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
John's success with his horses is not in winning races, it's in FINISHING races. And that is true for the majority of people who are distance riders. There is only one winner and only ten horses "top ten". Lots of horses finish healthy and fit to continue. It's not unlike running a marat

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
>> > I am >> probably going to get in trouble here, but I think an >> average horse of average fitness should be able to >> finish 25 miles within the 6 hour limit. I was going to let this slide, but ... Maybe, but why would you want to put your horse at risk by attempting to something he's not

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Renee Martin
Something that probably needs to be mentioned in this thread but hasn't come up yet: I think anyone considering the Icelandic breed for their next endurance or distance prospect needs to be realistic.John's success with his horses is not in winning races, it's in FINISHING races. While h

Re: [IceHorses] Quote

2008-02-07 Thread Renee Martin
- Original Message - From: "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "We are shaped and fashioned by what we love" --Goethe Yes, I see that every day as I look in the mirror and remember the chocolate I have eaten . . . Seriously, I have always loved the, for lack of a better term, "old fashio

Re: [IceHorses] magazine article on icelandics

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
They describe the tolt as a two beat verticle gait with two hoof one hoof support. I think that's only when Janice has Nasi climbing up the mobile home steps. What on earth is a "vertical gait"? That kind of defies gravity. I'd prefer that my horses move forward, not levitate mid-

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/6/08, Kristen Mikula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am > probably going to get in trouble here, but I think an > average horse of average fitness should be able to > finish 25 miles within the 6 hour limit. > I timed a ride on a GPS once and we were on average flatwalking TWHs and we were go

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-07 Thread Anneliese Virro
On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Janice McDonald wrote: >> >> Yes, I realize that this test was for culicoides. But since, for >> instance, Valurs low value (27) is not at all in sync with his fairly >> severe symptoms, I am saying that they are caused by something other >> than no-see-ums. And I wonder

Re: [IceHorses] at a gait magazine

2008-02-07 Thread Raven
>> Has anyone else got the issue? I used to get "The Gait" but cancel it I got tried of seeing padded shod horses in the articles. In one issue they even spotlighted a BL farrier. Ugh! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the

Re: [IceHorses] at a gait magazine

2008-02-07 Thread Raven
>> are long necked. I haven't seen too many long necked iceys in my years, quite surprised to see that as a description of there body. I only see short thick necks that look very strong Hi...I would disagree with you on the long necks for a two different reasons. 1. Huginn's neck it reallly

Re: [IceHorses] Picking an Icelandic for endurance

2008-02-07 Thread Lynn Kinsky
> gaits for any pleasure activity - naturally gaited, but a little to the > diagonal side. She tends to default to either running walk or foxtrot > and > she can canter. She's a lovely horse, but she is what she is. She's > not an > Arab, and I'm not complaining. Your friend appears to equat

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Wild Pony & Young Girl

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
You're right Mic. I really hate seeing huge riders on small ponies. Tosca hates it too - I'm dieting. She really needs to get a sidesaddle or some riding breeches. Riding astride in a skirt...? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] at a gait magazine

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
I quickly read the at a gait who put iceys as the breed to highlight, they say they are 13-14.2 tall, make great endurance prospects and are long necked. Sometimes I just wonder, what are these people smoking? :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Quote

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Is that why I have a butt like a horse´s ass? Oh, Mic, but you have such a nice LONG neck hehehe. :) Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] magazine article on icelandics

2008-02-07 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
the author is Jessica Caldwell and the photos look like the east or appalachian mountains in the background so I am guessing that is where they are taking the pics that go along with the story. I stated the height wrong, now that I am looking right at it, it gives a height range of 12-14.2 tall

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Wild Pony & Young Girl

2008-02-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
And she looks really huge on it! Poor little thing... You're right Mic. I really hate seeing huge riders on small ponies. Tosca hates it too - I'm dieting. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Picking an Icelandic for endurance

2008-02-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
In her words, Flekka just doesn't "have the heart" for it. And that's exactly why Twist isn't doing endurance. He is a terrific camper, a delight to handle on the ground a sweetie to work with, but he simply doesn't want to work that hard. I really think there are more places for the Twists

Re: [IceHorses] Quote

2008-02-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:26:53 -0500, you wrote: >"We are shaped and fashioned by what we love" --Goeth Is that why I have a butt like a horse´s ass? Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic

Re: [IceHorses] gæðingakeppni

2008-02-07 Thread Mic Rushen
>There's a good article on gæðingakeppni, explaining how it´s different >from FIPO competition, on World Fengur: >http://www.landsmot.is/english/index.php?pid=124&cid=440 > oops, it´s on the Landsmot website, not WF. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen ---

Re: [IceHorses] at a gait magazine

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>at a gait who put iceys as the breed to highlight, they say they are >>>13-14.2 tall, make great endurance prospects and are long necked. . I >>>only see short thick necks that look very strong. Who wrote the article? Who did they use as a resource? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickry

RE: [IceHorses] Quote

2008-02-07 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
> "We are shaped and fashioned by what we love" --Goeth< Boy, can I relate to that one,Jeannette

[IceHorses] gæðingakeppni

2008-02-07 Thread Mic Rushen
There's a good article on gæðingakeppni, explaining how it´s different from FIPO competition, on World Fengur: http://www.landsmot.is/english/index.php?pid=124&cid=440 Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen -

Re: [IceHorses] Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:39 AM, Karen Thomas wrote: By the definition of a rack in the USEF rules > > > That's interesting. I hadn't even thought about the USEF even having a > definition of the rack. I joined for a couple of years back when my > daughter was into hunters, about 1990-1992, (it

[IceHorses] Quote

2008-02-07 Thread Judy Ryder
"We are shaped and fashioned by what we love" --Goethe Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

[IceHorses] at a gait magazine

2008-02-07 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
I quickly read the at a gait who put iceys as the breed to highlight, they say they are 13-14.2 tall, make great endurance prospects and are long necked. I haven't seen too many long necked iceys in my years, quite surprised to see that as a description of there body. I only see short thick neck

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Wild Pony & Young Girl

2008-02-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:42:53 -, you wrote: >After all that abuse with the whip I'm not surprised it bucked her off. And she looks really huge on it! Poor little thing... Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen -

RE: [IceHorses] Picking an Icelandic for endurance

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Nancy listed this as one of the checklist traits for an endurance horse: >>> A horse that loves to move forward. A horse that loves his work. A horse that takes joy in the feel of his body exercising. And, she noted about Flekka's race times: >>> When you have her record up, then click on t

Re: [IceHorses] John / Fox Trot

2008-02-07 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/6/08, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I still am not clear who decided what the Icelandics do naturally is tolt. > When and where did the first definition of what the signature gait of the > breed was appear? Anyone know? Did FEIF come up with it?Just on > personal observ

RE: [IceHorses] Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Karen Thomas
>>>By the definition of a rack in the USEF rules That's interesting. I hadn't even thought about the USEF even having a definition of the rack. I joined for a couple of years back when my daughter was into hunters, about 1990-1992, (it was AHSA then) and at that time, I think the only "gaited"

[IceHorses] Re: Wild Pony & Young Girl

2008-02-07 Thread Susan Coombes
> Can you believe some parents actually put their kids on wild ponies?? > At least the little girl was wearing a helmet. After all that abuse with the whip I'm not surprised it bucked her off. Sue

Re: [IceHorses] Wild Pony & Young Girl

2008-02-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
Someone needs to get that little girl a pony. And then take her whip away from her. Cute. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] And They Call Us Horse Lovers

2008-02-07 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Feb 6, 2008 11:02 PM, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This same guy, a world-class competitor, kept every horse in his barn on > Serpecil, a tranquilizer not approved by FDA for use in horses. I have no > idea where he got the drug, but somebody was selling it to him. > Why would h

Re: [IceHorses] John / Fox Trot

2008-02-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/02/2008, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > virtually unknown) so a "different" gait is a good selling point. Why > no one has cottoned on to the fact that three or four "different" > gaits are an even better selling point is beyond me... That's exactly what I can't understand. More ge

Re: [IceHorses] John / Fox Trot

2008-02-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:01:31 -0500, you wrote: >When and where did the first definition of what the signature gait of the >breed was appear? Anyone know? Did FEIF come up with it?Just on >personal observation, it seems the breed's gaiting spectrum is all over the >place -- and always has be

Re: [IceHorses] Endurance riding and Icelandics (was american gaited horse)

2008-02-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:04:27 -0500, you wrote: >thread, but I think it's relevant to point out that many "strongly gaited" >horses, meaning those with a strong tendency to the lateral side, have >trouble cantering. Should have mentioned, Lotning (T2 winner) was also 4-gait champion in the UK

Re: [IceHorses] american gaited horse

2008-02-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:09:42 EST, you wrote: >have received wondered why don't remember hearing of a strongly gaited >Icelandic that is seriously competing in endurance. A mare who used to belong to me, Lotning, competed a fair bit in endurance here in the UK and did very well up to 50 milers.