Re: [IceHorses] Helmets

2008-04-24 Thread Lorraine
> that is so sad. I see lots of people riding without a helmet and it blows me away. I wear mine even if I am riding in the corral. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yah

Re: [IceHorses] Baldur

2008-04-24 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- On Wed, 4/23/08, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WOW You lucky pair! I could be really envious, he's such a super > horse. I saw him several years ago in Iceland, and we tried to get a > group of breeders together in the UK to buy him when he was for sale > but coul

[IceHorses] Helmets

2008-04-24 Thread Judy Ryder
This is about a member of our SCA group, who has passed away, the original notice followed by the update: On Sunday, April 6, Debbie (Rhiannon) and Chuck were mounting up and heading out for a trail ride. Debbie had just gotten a new saddle, and for some reason didn't feel confident putting her

Re: [IceHorses] IceTolt in Britain

2008-04-24 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
>>>I understand your point and your analogy Skye, but really, its not the same. Hey no problem, I really do understand...I was feeling a little giddy that night, and Mics post was really interesting about the icetolt, and it brought up a lot of questions in my mind about what people ask t

[IceHorses] CMO Ride

2008-04-24 Thread Raven
We're out the door right away in the morning. Heading out to mange the CMO ride I helped to set up & map. It's been rainiing...hard all day. I sure hope the weather folks are wrong about rain all weekend. I have had the ponies in the barn since 3 pm in hopes that they dry off. Huginn is soaked to t

Re: [IceHorses] Charm, And the Noodle

2008-04-24 Thread snowpony
> > Charm carried around a noodle on a breezy day: > > http://iceryder.blogspot.com/2008/04/charm-and-noodle.html Judy, I love your inventiveness!And that Charm -- she's been brought along so slowly and carefully -- with tons of life experiences under her belt already -- that I think

Re: [IceHorses] Charm, And the Noodle

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
Charm carried around a noodle on a breezy day: My goodness Judy, if you'd started Tali. I wouldn't have got hurt. She's doing so well. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Charm, And the Noodle

2008-04-24 Thread Judy Ryder
>I know a man who starts horses with a contraption attached to a > surcingle he calls "A monkey on his back". He says it gets a horse > used to things moving around in the air above him, where a human > seated in a saddle would be. Charm carried around a noodle on a breezy day: http://iceryde

[IceHorses] Horse Behavior

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
Here's a question for you. I went out this afternoon to remove Hunter's blanket - finally a 60 degree afternoon. While I was out there, I walked over to talk to Tosca and give her a piece of carrot. Just before I reached Tosca, her paint filly friend bit me in the middle of the back. I whirl

Re: [IceHorses] Charm, Another Mounting Lesson

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
I wouldn't trust the kid not to have a brain-fart and do something really flaky at the wrong moment Tosca had had someone on her back maybe 10 times when I put our 12 year old grandaughter up. Still at the mounting block, she suddenly collapsed forward over Tosca's withers. I asked her wha

RE: [IceHorses] Princess Buttercup

2008-04-24 Thread Denise Taylor
Hi Karen: I have not been on in a few days but found the pics of your gorgeous red dun filly. She sure is a beauty. I bought a mini herd from Oregon several years ago and with it I got 2 orphan red dun colts that looked a lot like your buttercup in color anyway. I named one Kveldroii and th

RE: [IceHorses] Charm, Another Mounting Lesson

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> It's a good way to start, if you have a kid that's willing and with a good >>> seat. The young horse's back is not used to carrying weight, is not fully >>> fused, and lighter is better to start. I agree with starting with the lightest weight rider possible, but I would be VERY wary using

Re: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread snowpony
Kristen Mikula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The rest of our > snow just melted this week and with a touch of rain on > Tuesday the grass is only hinting green. Kristen, We're down near Grand Rapids and my daffodils have been blooming for about a week now. It's green, green, green down

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Names

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I have suggested Lucy but then Hroi's name would have to be changed to >>> Hricky :-) I just found this one: Lúsía: woman's name I think we'll stick with Hroi though. "Lusia, you inna lotta trouble!" Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Versi

RE: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Cute video! Thanks! >>> It's funny how the little girl is just hanging out with mom and the little boy is off exploring! Roka stuck pretty close to Lil until she found out her mom was queen and then she went about antagonizing the others! Spakur, Lilja's colt from 4 years ago was exploring

RE: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> i think sometimes the ones that bolt have tight saddles. Janice I think you could probably more generically categorize that as "pain" from whatever cause. Loftur was previously ridden in a BMSS, and I had one when I got him - it seemed to fit pretty well. But, he bolted still. His pain

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
I suspect that your Twist is just one of the naturally pacey ones - there's a variety of gaitedness in any breed, so that's probably just what the DNA dice rolled for him. I'm afraid so. He will trot, but it is very bouncy and difficult to ride. And he had on occassion done a stepping pace

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
I guess you'd need to know your horse. On the other hand, what about those "forward" horses that are only forward because they are trying to escape the pain of a pinching saddle? My horses are generally lazy and pokey when they are relaxed, and then will step pace. And in dogs,

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
I do understand that you are all discussing horses for whom pace is not a natural or accepted gait, but as the owner of a lovable off-track Standardbred who paces as a result of generations of breeding for pace ... what can I say? For Twist is is not laziness, saddle fit, >

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On the other > hand, what about those "forward" horses that are only > forward because they are trying to escape the pain of > a pinching saddle? i think sometimes the ones that bolt have tight saddles. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
And in dogs, pace is a gait of being tired, so there is another monkey in the pot! I do understand that you are all discussing horses for whom pace is not a natural or accepted gait, but as the owner of a lovable off-track Standardbred who paces as a result of generations of breeding for pace

RE: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> was she pacing because she was lazy, or did she appear lazy because it hurt her to move forward? << I guess you'd need to know your horse. On the other hand, what about those "forward" horses that are only forward because they are trying to escape

RE: [IceHorses] Maja and Hroi in the pasture - video

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Hroi has some gait there at the end i think! Janice I've seen him and PB (Princess Buttercup) both gaiting: foxtrot, step pace, flat walk, maybe even a little saddle rack. But, is it of any significance? We know that young foals have very short backs and even QH babies may show some gai

RE: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Let's not forget a big reason why some horses step pace - it is a lazy >>> gait! Sina, for example, used to step-pace a lot...and sometimes she didn't want to move forward. When I'd get her a wider saddle, she'd get more energetic, and the pacing would get better until that saddle would

RE: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Looks like Hroi found an imaginary friend to play with. Kat Aren't you sorry you don't have one this year, Kat? :) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1394 - Release Date: 4/23/2008 7:16 PM --

Re: [IceHorses] Charm, Another Mounting Lesson

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
I know a man who starts horses with a contraption attached to a surcingle he calls "A monkey on his back". He says it gets a horse used to things moving around in the air above him, where a human seated in a saddle would be. He takes little flags and crosses them, ties them in a bundle so they ar

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Names

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On 4/24/08, Jacki Edens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have suggested Lucy but then Hroi's name would have to be changed to > Hricky :-) HAHAHA good one Jacki!! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is >>> this horse doing? Pace that might be slightly broken by the time the lateral pairs set down. Nice that there's no noseband, but she's still got a grip on those reins - certainly not doing anything in that second t

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Names

2008-04-24 Thread Jacki Edens
I have suggested Lucy but then Hroi's name would have to be changed to Hricky :-)

[IceHorses] Lighthands Horsemanship

2008-04-24 Thread Judy Ryder
An interesting site: http://www.lighthandshorsemanship.com/ Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Stiffness

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
Most Icelandics here certainly ARE taught suppling exercises. Whether the eventual owners use them or not is another matter of course! ; ) Ah, I need to come ride with you. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
Well, that's pretty lateral looking, but since the front and hind legs on the left side don't seem to be at the same place in their flight, I will guess stepping pace. If the legs on the left side end up striking together, then hard pace. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Charm, Another Mounting Lesson

2008-04-24 Thread Judy Ryder
>i gotta find a kid to borrow to put on Nasi... It's a good way to start, if you have a kid that's willing and with a good seat. The young horse's back is not used to carrying weight, is not fully fused, and lighter is better to start. I added a couple of videos to the page: http://iceryder

[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Old Picture

2008-04-24 Thread Susan Coombes
> This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is > this horse doing? > I think we had this one before. Wish I could remember the answer. It looks like a lateral gait. Stepping pace? Sue Coombes

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Stiffness

2008-04-24 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:11:00 -0700, you wrote: >I think you're right on this Lynn, and I wonder if part of the reason some >Icelandics aren't taught suppling exercises is because they are so easy. Most Icelandics here certainly ARE taught suppling exercises. Whether the eventual owners use

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:23:32 -0700, you wrote: >Could it be that there are some Icelandic Horses who do not have backs that >are strong enough to carry riders (or can only carry up to a certain weight >before becoming uncomfortable), so they tend to stiffen up? Possibly, but to me it seems more

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture

2008-04-24 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 24/04/2008, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is > this horse doing? Looks pretty pacey to mestepping pace? Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On 4/24/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is > this horse doing? > fox trot. why does everything look like a foxtrot to me lately?? it would be so short as to almost be a piaffe tho! the back seems rounded altho the

Re: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Kristen Mikula
> Hroi... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNUY9gYxYEc > > Wow! It is really green down there. The rest of our snow just melted this week and with a touch of rain on Tuesday the grass is only hinting green. -Kristen in Northern MI

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Names

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
Krisse, is there any icelandic name for a woman named Lucy, or lucille, or lucinda, something like that? A redhaired woman? Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Stiffness

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
But being supple is the key to doing the gaits "harmoniously", without going to the trot or hard pace. I think you're right on this Lynn, and I wonder if part of the reason some Icelandics aren't taught suppling exercises is because they are so easy. I would never start a TB and skip the step

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Stiffness

2008-04-24 Thread Lynn Kinsky
>> I don't mind stepping pace at all - as you say, it's comfortable - but >> I have found that Icelandics which do stepping pace a lot do seem to >> stiffen up and end up doing hard pace which isn't comfortable at all! > > You may be right. > > Could it be that there are some Icelandic Horses who

[IceHorses] Re: Contoured Girths, slipping saddle UPDATE

2008-04-24 Thread Kaaren Jordan
> To Zoe & Emmy Re: the front shims< Robyn used to be able to procure some Balance 1/4" Prolite shims which worked really well for me & many of my customers. The Balance International Ladies in the UK MAY sell the shims to you (called 1/4" JB shims) if you tell them you have an Icelandic & a S

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Names

2008-04-24 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Skise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those word do not mean "a troll woman", they are names of troll women in > stories. > > Krisse > Oh--that makes more sense to me, but then, what did those names mean before they became associated with troll women. V

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/4/24 Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Could it be that there are some Icelandic Horses who do not have backs that > are strong enough to carry riders (or can only carry up to a certain weight > before becoming uncomfortable), so they tend to stiffen up? Speaking of backs - I was reading the

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
I reread Lee's article. She doesnt want to cure the stepping pace. she wants to cure the pace. Where I got the idea she wanted to cure the stepping pace was from another group where one of her self appointed emmissarys on earth told me Lee said any horse can be cured of a stepping pace if ridden

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Judy Ryder
> I don't mind stepping pace at all - as you say, it's comfortable - but > I have found that Icelandics which do stepping pace a lot do seem to > stiffen up and end up doing hard pace which isn't comfortable at all! You may be right. Could it be that there are some Icelandic Horses who do not h

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
> > Let's not forget a big reason why some horses step > pace - it is a lazy gait! I have two "lazy" horses. Both just laid back really. one is pacey one is trotty. so it must be a conformation thing. and lazy is not a bad thing. for me. most of the time. depending. Janice-- even good ho

Re: [IceHorses] Trail Safety Tips

2008-04-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
All good ideas. I wear a Road ID bracelet every time I ride. Even thought I often ride with a friend and the boarding stable would guess something was wrong if I were out over long, I figure if I couldn't talk, my friend probably doesn't have my contact numbers with her. They're pretty good a

RE: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What I rarely heard questioned (except on this list) is WHY do they stiffen, and which is the cause and which is the effect. << Let's not forget a big reason why some horses step pace - it is a lazy gait! Susan in NV read my blog to see why

Re: [IceHorses] IceTolt in Britain

2008-04-24 Thread Renee Martin
> More and more icetolts in Iceland (especially the big ones) are held > indoors. > > Mic > What a shame. They had the lesser of two evils going on IMO. But the trend seems to be Iceland attempts to adopt what the outside world is doing with horses I've noticed -- or at least their version

Re: [IceHorses] Maja and Hroi in the pasture - video

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
Hroi has some gait there at the end i think! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Princess Buttercup

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
oh that would be a good name. Isn't she prissy! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Following mama

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
he is like : "I'm BAD, I'm bad!" Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Charm, Another Mounting Lesson

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
i gotta find a kid to borrow to put on Nasi... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] IceTolt in Britain

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
well. Just wish they would have plain ol races! on dirt tracks. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
> I don't mind stepping pace at all - as you say, it's comfortable - but > I have found that Icelandics which do stepping pace a lot do seem to > stiffen up and end up doing hard pace which isn't comfortable at all! Jaspar moves into hard pace when asked for speed faster than his stepping pace

Re: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
oh my gosh! I love the rear and the strike at the bush there near the end haha. What a stocky little guy!! Pink's color is so different karen. I wonder if its cause she is red dun on top of sd! Hroi is a HOOT. Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Slimed by Horse

2008-04-24 Thread Janice McDonald
I can't describe the "look" this > resulted in. > > Nancy > HAHAHA! Was it sort of a satisfied smile? Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

RE: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I don't mind stepping pace at all - as you say, it's comfortable - but I have found that Icelandics which do stepping pace a lot do seem to stiffen up and end up doing hard pace which isn't comfortable at all! ; ) As long as I've had Icelandic's, I've heard that: that Icelandic's who step p

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Names

2008-04-24 Thread Skise
Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > What's with all these different words for troll woman anyways? I've > heard that Eskimos have many different words for snow, which I can > understand, but troll women?! Those word do not mean "a troll woman", they are names of troll women in stor

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Names

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> My favorites so far are: Kubbur: stump, fatso Kólfur: spear, sheath of a >>> horse Bjálfi: fur, bastard Vepja: pewit Buska: promiscuous tramp woman >>> Björg: help Gee, all that, plus you can't type the characters on a normal keyboard, and no one can pronounce them either. Buttercup

RE: [IceHorses] Princess Buttercup

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> The Princess Bride -- one of my favorite movies. Anyone know the Icelandic for buttercup? It's one of our favorites too - we watched it about 1000 times with my daughter, and I think Cary and I enjoyed it at least as much as she did - some parts were just too subtle and funny to be wasted o

RE: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> He is so much fun, what an attitude... your little girl is so Mellow, what an interesting pair they will be! I think a lot of it is that she's just a day old, and he's four days. I'll be a little more likely to judge personalities in about...oh, 3-4 years! Karen Thomas, NC No virus fo

RE: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Cherie Mascis
Cute video! It's funny how the little girl is just hanging out with mom and the little boy is off exploring! Roka stuck pretty close to Lil until she found out her mom was queen and then she went about antagonizing the others! Spakur, Lilja's colt from 4 years ago was exploring from the get-go.

Re: [IceHorses] In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hroi... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNUY9gYxYEc > > > Karen Thomas, NC > That is precious!!! V

Re: [IceHorses] Stepping Pace / Lee Ziegler

2008-04-24 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:33:44 -0500, you wrote: > Almost every breed gaited horse there is is rife with >stepping pace and people get the impression their horses are >"inferior" I don't mind stepping pace at all - as you say, it's comfortable - but I have found that Icelandics which do stepping pa

[IceHorses] Re: In the silly pasture...

2008-04-24 Thread Susan Coombes
> > Hroi... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNUY9gYxYEc > > > Karen Thomas, NC Hroi like to play with the two silly looking white 'foals' on the other side of the fence. 'They've got 4 legsbut I don't see any tails mom' Sue Coombes

Re: [IceHorses] IceTolt in Britain

2008-04-24 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:38:49 -0400, you wrote: > It's my understanding that in Iceland, on the lakes in the REAL icetolts, >they do go in a straight line. More and more icetolts in Iceland (especially the big ones) are held indoors. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen