Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:27:57 -0600, you wrote: >if they do a nice easy rocking chair canter in the >field, will they usually under saddle? Yes, that's been my experience. My old horse Solvi had a huge canter in the field and it was really hard to sit on (there's no way you would put a beginner

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread Janice McDonald
> > It seems to be pretty rare for Icelandics to manage a nice slow > collected canter. Ability, or training? The latter, I think, though > some 5gaited horses find it really hard. > > Mic > do you happen to know, being as you have a lot of experience riding DIFFERENT icies... if they do a nice

RE: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread Karen Thomas
and someday i'll learn to attach things ;) >>I would say she has rather a nice sloping shoulder. I don't dare judge particular conformation traits in moving, tacked horses, so I could well be wrong, but if anything, I would have guessed in that picture that he might have a somewhat upright

RE: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread Karen Thomas
Not here. We don't rush their training and thus, they don't "rush" into their gaits. Of course, we're not trying to do any "collected" canters, not in the true sense of the word. But, nice, relaxed canters? Every Icelandic that we've started here can canter easily, as opposed to some luggin

RE: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> It seems to be pretty rare for Icelandics to manage a nice slow collected canter. Not here. We don't rush their training and thus, they don't "rush" into their gaits. Of course, we're not trying to do any "collected" canters, not in the true sense of the word. But, nice, relaxed canters?

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:19:49AM +, Mic Rushen wrote: > >you'd think a shorter horse would have less > >"power" but he seems to have more power in a canter than my big horses > >have in a gallop. > > It seems to be pretty rare for Icelandics to manage a nice slow > collected canter. Ability

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:37:55 -0600, you wrote: >you'd think a shorter horse would have less >"power" but he seems to have more power in a canter than my big horses >have in a gallop. It seems to be pretty rare for Icelandics to manage a nice slow collected canter. Ability, or training? The latte

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-11 Thread Mic Rushen
>and someday i'll learn to attach things ;) > I would say she has rather a nice sloping shoulder. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solv

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
And doesnt mind others leaving him. not AT all. I really like that trait in a horse! Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Janice McDonald
On Feb 10, 2008 7:32 PM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > are you new at riding icelandics like me Nancy?? > > Oh my yes. If I used my hands and my feet, I could probably count up the > rides I have had on an Icelandic, and I've never ridden a truly well > trained Icelandic. well

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
> are you new at riding icelandics like me Nancy?? Oh my yes. If I used my hands and my feet, I could probably count up the rides I have had on an Icelandic, and I've never ridden a truly well trained Icelandic. First, I rode Lina, out friend's therapy horse. She's a little doll, but real

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Karen Thomas
the AQHA trot, the peanut roller thing so slow it is almost a limp, is called a "lope". Nope, the lope is their pitiful looking version of a canter. The jog is their pitiful trot... Actually though, the show jog has about as much to do with a "natural jog" as a natural running walk

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Janice McDonald
are you new at riding icelandics like me Nancy?? I keep expecting the trotting breed gaits to be the same and they arent! Tivar's canter is almost scarey, it feels like a powerful thundering gallop on a walking horse, definitely not a "rocking chair" canter. But I see nasi in the pasture and he

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Janice McDonald
On Feb 10, 2008 4:14 AM, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Certainly nearly all five gaited (ie with pace) horses can do a nice > trot without suspension, the definition of jog, I believe (it's not > much recognised in the UK, being looked on as "faulty" in most breeds, > though it's much

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Janice McDonald
the AQHA trot, the peanut roller thing so slow it is almost a limp, is called a "lope". Many train it with a technique called "spur check" which is interesting, they spur the horse when it goes too fast. "check" its speed. Sometimes people will buy AQHA former show horses at auction and be baffl

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:04:10 -0500, you wrote: >hm. what do you think of stjarni's shoulder from that pic, if i may >ask? Can you post it again, please? (or send it privately if you prefer) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen -

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
> How is the "proper" trot in those horses you would classify as having > a good jog? A very VERY long time ago I rode a few Western horses. I don't know what they are doing today, but then these horses were asked to jog, to trot and to extend the trot. The good ones had lovely tro

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Karen Thomas
How is the "proper" trot in those horses you would classify as having a good jog? That's probably a little hard for me to answer, since a fair number of the three-gaited horses I've ridden have been QH or stock-type horses. :) Let me just compare the "joggers" to the "non-joggers

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> hm. what do you think of stjarni's shoulder from that pic, if i may >>> ask? It's hard to tell in a picture of a moving horse, especially one wearing tack. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 04:57:39PM +, Mic Rushen wrote: > >owned in the past, but I think one contributing factor to a horse having a > >nice jog is having a rather upright shoulder, although not all horses with > >upright shoulders seem to jog equally. > > I've always been taught - and experi

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:51:12 -0500, you wrote: >owned in the past, but I think one contributing factor to a horse having a >nice jog is having a rather upright shoulder, although not all horses with >upright shoulders seem to jog equally. I've always been taught - and experienced - that horses wi

RE: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Certainly nearly all five gaited (ie with pace) horses can do a nice trot without suspension, the definition of jog, I believe (it's not much recognised in the UK, being looked on as "faulty" in most breeds, though it's much more comfortable to ride and presumably uses much less energy). If y

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-10 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:40:37 -0500, you wrote: >do you think most iceys have a "jog" similar in footfalls but distinct >in feeling from their bigger "trot"? Certainly nearly all five gaited (ie with pace) horses can do a nice trot without suspension, the definition of jog, I believe (it's not much

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 07:04:22PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What kind of saddle are you using that sure looks comfy. He is beautiful, > wow. Sylvia thank you! :) that is a sensation dressage g3 saddle that i had on trial from kaaren jordan (kaaren please correct me if i am wrong?) it

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 2/9/2008 3:21:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) What kind of saddle are you using that sure looks comfy. He is beautiful, wow. Sylvia **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.ao

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
> I think if an Icelandic is given his head from the start and allowed > to find his own balance during training, then all sorts of nice things > can happen. *grin* if i ever get a camera again, or a video that works with my machine, i will try to get some pictures of stjarni's "big trot". i ri

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 09/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to me too -- but if i remember correctly from the time, it was slow, > and SO SMOOOTH and bounce-less i could hardly believe it when i saw > the picture. (very unlike stjarni's usual trot, which is HUGE :) To me, an Icelandic could be

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 05:32:49PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: > Looks like a nice trot to me. to me too -- but if i remember correctly from the time, it was slow, and SO SMOOOTH and bounce-less i could hardly believe it when i saw the picture. (very unlike stjarni's usual trot, which is HUGE :

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 05:06:54PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: > On 09/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > so, what gait? > > > > --vicka > > Did you mean to attach a pic with that Vicka? i did, in a message shortly following. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Looks like a nice trot to me. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 09/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so, what gait? > > --vicka Did you mean to attach a pic with that Vicka? Wanda

[IceHorses] "what gait?" pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
it occurs to me that i found one (from last summer). (i still can't find my camera. more annoyingly, i discovered that the "flip video" i really wanted doesn't work with macos) so, what gait? --vicka