Thanks Kayla.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs:
www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:18:19 -0400, you wrote:
They were expressly forbidden by Icelandic rules until maybe a year or two
ago.
No - they were forbidden by FEIF rules. They were allowed at all
competitions in Iceland, except the few run under FIPO rules.
(oh, that's better, we're disagreeing
(oh, that's better, we're disagreeing again!) ; )
Ok, yeah...but at least we're only disagreeing on some details, not in
principle. :)
Karen Thomas, NC
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The curb bit, on the other hand, is fundamentall intended for one-
handed rein contact. The unjointed bar is rigid and immovable, it
must not be tilted, and its position on the tongue must not to
altered much. Consequently,
---Very interesting read! I thought that Lee Ziegler had
me using direct rein contact with the mild ported mouth (not jointed)
kimberwick that I use. I wonder if the above is contradictory to
that. I assume that the use of the term curb bit would indicate a
mild ported mouth
According to my bit book, a snaffle is any bit that works by direct
pressure, whereas a curb is a bit that works by leverage. So your
kimberwicke, like my mod. port Monte Foreman pelham, works by direct
pressure and is thus a snaffle bit.
There's another difference - a Kimberwicke does have a
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:49:52 -0600, you wrote:
So your
kimberwicke, like my mod. port Monte Foreman pelham, works by direct
pressure and is thus a snaffle bit.
??? How can a bit which uses poll pressure and has a curb chain be
classified as a snaffle? Answer - it can't.
A Kimberwick is a curb
I wonder if the above is contradictory to that. I assume that the use
of the term curb bit would indicate a mild ported mouth bit with shanks?
I don't think the kimberwick has what could be called shanks, unless you
use the rein slots. Then you could have a little bit of a leverage bit.
Lee
??? How can a bit which uses poll pressure and has a curb chain be
classified as a snaffle? Answer - it can't.
Mic???!! What's up? We're agreeing way more often that we're disagreeing
lately! :)
Karen Thomas, NC
A Pelham is designed to work as a curb and snaffle together, using two
reins. If you only use the snaffle rein, why not just use an ordinary
snaffle?
Because my horse wasnt' comfortable in a snaffle. When I rode in Lee's
clinic, she wanted to try him in a Monte Foreman pelham, which she had
Who are you and what have you done with Karen?
Mic
she woke up and there was a giant seed pod beside her bed.
janice
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yipie tie yie yo
Because my horse wasnt' comfortable in a snaffle. When I rode in Lee's
clinic, she wanted to try him in a Monte Foreman pelham, which she had and
we did. He went better in it and was happier w/ a bit, so I switched.
That was one thing I found terribly refreshing when I first encountered Lee
and
Mic???!! What's up? We're agreeing way more often that we're
disagreeing lately! :)
Who are you and what have you done with Karen?
Hey, I was just wondering the same thing about the old Mic! :) By the way,
nice to meet ya, New Mic!
New Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
No virus
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I rather think so too, particularly as FEIF wishes to be a member of
FEI, with Icelandic horse sport eventually being an Olympic
discipline. Trouble is, most other disciplines don't even bother to
ban the use of bits similar to the Icelandic bit in conjunction with a
flash noseband - I'm
It's more like a curb, w/ a medium port w/ a roller. There are rings
for a rein to use it as a curb, altho I use it on the snaffle setting, on
the big rings. I use a 1/2 curb strap set very loose, more 'cause I had it
on the bridle already than anything else.
Here is the Tom Thumb snaffle:
On 9/17/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's more like a curb, w/ a medium port w/ a roller. There are rings
for a rein to use it as a curb, altho I use it on the snaffle setting, on
the big rings. I use a 1/2 curb strap set very loose, more 'cause I had it
on the bridle already
This is what I think of as a Tom Thumb snaffle:
http://www.chicksaddlery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?screen=PRODProduct_Code=25511
I have seen some with even longer shanks. It's not hard to imagine the
damage you could do - think nut cracker.
Nancy
http://www.saddleuptack.com/webcat/items/item990.htm
No, the Monte Foreman is very different. This one more resembles a curb.
I'll send you a pic.
Is this it? http://www.bozsaddlery.com/9jpeg.jpg I've seen it with a
couple of different mouthpieces and with a couple of different shank
That's barbaric. Combined with a drop noseband, it seems like you could
draw blood.
Nancy
here is an elevator bit i think is one iceandics use:
http://www.nationalbridle.com/ProdDetail.asp?Catalog_ID=6596
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yipie tie yie yo
and here is jaspar's bit that looks cruel but he seems to love! Irt
has the mullen triple barrel mouthpiece and wears it sloppy loose.
http://www.toklat.com/myler/mbits_cheek_p.html
janice--
yipie tie yie yo
this is one i would like to try on stonewall:
http://www.nationalbridle.com/ProdDetail.asp?Catalog_ID=6676
janice
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yipie tie yie yo
I looked at a horse that was using that bit very happily. I never
actually got down to California to see and ride him, but I've always
wondered if I shouldn't have. He was an Arab gelding, owned and ridden by
a 74 year old woman who sent him to the same trainer for 30 days every
summer for a
On 17/09/2007, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's barbaric. Combined with a drop noseband, it seems like you could
draw blood.
Nancy
There has been, thus the call from FEIF for riders to pay more
attention to the injuries their horses sustain.
Wanda
That's barbaric. Combined with a drop noseband, it seems like you could
draw blood.
There has been, thus the call from FEIF for riders to pay more
attention to the injuries their horses sustain.
Not that there's much done about it.
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
On 17/09/2007, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not that there's much done about it.
True. Were there any sanctions against any riders for this? I'm not
aware of any.
Wanda
No, the Monte Foreman is very different. This one more resembles a curb.
I'll send you a pic.
Is this it? http://www.bozsaddlery.com/9jpeg.jpg I've seen it with a
couple of different mouthpieces and with a couple of different shank
lengths. I think it's pretty much the same as the
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