[IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-29 Thread Susan Coombes
When I ride bitless I much prefer the ancient Lindell sidepull > I bought from Robyn about 20 years ago, which is still going strong! > Great news. I'm waiting for one to arrive. Sue

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-29 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:14:18 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >> bitless rig - particularly the cross-over type >> "bitless bridles" - is necessarily kinder. > >I agree. I tried Andi in one of these type of bitless bridle, and he had a >fit over it. I've had the same thing happen. I find they don't re

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-29 Thread Nancy Sturm
Now I ride him in an S Hackamore that he loves and is very happy in, but that his old trainer considers a torture device! I am an absolute born again snaffle bit zealot, but every now and then my old favorite type of bit is wrong for an individual horse. Hunter, who has had some long ago t

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-29 Thread susan cooper
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I put "kinder" in quotes because I'm not > convinced that moving from a mild snaffle to a > bitless rig - particularly the cross-over type > "bitless bridles" - is necessarily kinder. I agree. I tried Andi in one of these type of bit

[IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-29 Thread Susan Coombes
And here rider asks for nothing or completely the opposite with her seat compared to what she asks for with the rein and then they blame the head gear that it doesn't work. It doesn't matter how good relationship you have with the horse if you ask th

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-29 Thread Karen Thomas
>>>Trying new things to see if they work for you - good. But not realising the >>>problem is >>>totally elsewhere and then saying "well, we've seen this doesn't work, the >>>horses need >>>to be put to their place with harsher methods" - not good. Of course there >>>might be >>>nothing wrong

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-29 Thread Skise
Kaaren Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: > The woman riding in the You Tube video wasn't what I'd consider a "centered > riding" advertisment, but at least she's trying something new & that's a > start.I shudder to think what anyone on the list would say about my > riding 14 years ago when

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Nancy Sturm
Eventually?? I think I have that permanently! I, personally, have helmet head most days. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> certainly would agree that I would not want to be publicly criticized for any of my first or even later efforts, but than I would not publicly post videos of them either. I think that we all must be aware that to post on line in a public venue is to invite critique. Jacki Exactly. I kn

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Judy Ryder
> Ah, Kaaren, the voice of reason. Well said and thank you for reminding us > that we all, every one of us, will eventually have a wind-in-the-hair > day. My first response to this thread included: "I'm glad to see the openness to trying bitless riding. And the treats! Perhaps we should wr

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Jacki Edens
. I > particularly wouldn't like people publicly criticizing my efforts to try > new things...would you?? I generally lay low for any of the critiques of riding, but I would like to make one comment here. I certainly would agree that I would not want to be publicly criticized for any of my

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:46:58 -0800, you wrote: >that we all, every one of us, will eventually have a wind-in-the-hair day. Eventually?? I think I have that permanently! Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Nancy Sturm
Life's a learning curve & I applaud anyone who's trying to makechanges even if they "don't get it right" according to my beliefs . I don't know any of us who becomes "perfect anything" over night..it's a process. I particularly wouldn't like people publicly criticizing my efforts to try ne

[IceHorses] Re: bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Kaaren Jordan
I first MUST preface this..THIS ISN"T DIRECTED AT ANYTHING KAREN THOMAS SAID or SAYS SHE DOES!!...It's simply a sharing of what I've observed some of my horses doing over the years. >sometimes has "wild days< When a cold weather front comes in with high winds, my normally pleasantly forward Selur