Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Laree Shulman
On either side of the hub are 20+ acre, very hilly > pastures with gates into the hub. We let them run in one section for about > 1-3 months then switch them to the other side. I know a couple of people that use the hub set up and it is very functional - a really nice set up if you can do it wit

RE: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Cherie Mascis
We have 50 acres more or less fenced for 7-8 horses (2 Belgians, 2-3 Icelandics, 1 Paint, 1 Paso Fino, 1 Fjord). There's a small barn/run-in surrounded by a circular horse wire fence, it's about an acre (we call it the hub). At the opposite end of the circle (inside) and downhill from the barn is

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
... stop worming her ... that's almost as bad about our joking about leaving the blankets off the fat horses so that they would expend more energy keeping warm. Wonder if that would work for me. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread IceDog
> In the UK, there's a real difference between laminitis and founder - > is it the same in the USA, or do you use the terms interchangeably? Technically, yes there is a difference in the terms here too. But they are often used interchangeably, especially by laymen. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics

RE: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> In the UK, there's a real difference between laminitis and founder - is it the same in the USA, or do you use the terms interchangeably? They are different, but related terms. Laminitis is the root disease, actually a symptom of something else being awry, where the lamina become inflamed. F

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread IceDog
> I was looking at one of the fields today. Four horses, total years > between them 111 ! I have a herd here that between the 4 have 104 years! They get pretty much unrestricted grazing. Three of them (mares) come in when the boys go out. The gelding can go out with the boys and chooses to abou

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:01:05 -0400, you wrote: >I've never seen a herd of "free grazing" Icelandic's that didn't have some >serious weight problems in the mature horses... In our lot, only youngsters, brood mares and oldies get free grazing. The riding horses (or ones of that sort of age, mares wh

RE: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Yes. I think Lina is 5, Tosca 4 and Yrsa 3, but the question for us has been how he could manage an entire herd (I think 30 or so) on open pasture and not have trouble managing weight. I've never seen a herd of "free grazing" Icelandic's that didn't have some serious weight problems in th

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:50:29 -0400, you wrote: > Many older horses who founder from Cushing's In the UK, there's a real difference between laminitis and founder - is it the same in the USA, or do you use the terms interchangeably? Here, founder is a specific term only used when refering to a hors

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
Yes. I think Lina is 5, Tosca 4 and Yrsa 3, but the question for us has been how he could manage an entire herd (I think 30 or so) on open pasture and not have trouble managing weight. There was every age there from foals to mares and one gelding in their teens. All appeared to be carrying a "

RE: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I only once had an Icelandic that had been allowed free range on "proper" pasture (40 acres of dairy cow pasture). She was actually NOT that fat - but she had had recurring chronic laminitis for 5 years (her owner could not understand why she was so often lame and thought she had damaged her s

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:29:30 -0800, you wrote: > Maybe it's true that if grass >is all they ever experience, they only eat what they need. It would scare >me, however. Our youngsters and brood mares all have large (for the UK!) areas of grass, moor and heathland to range in, and ad-lib haylage in

RE: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Our two mares are on what is essentially a dry lot. We both wonder how the horses could maintain a healthy weight at the breeder's and not here. Maybe it's true that if grass is all they ever experience, they only eat what they need. It would scare me, however. Could easily be an age-thin

Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures

2007-11-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
I've had several conversations about pasturing the ponies with the other girl I know who bought an Icelandic from Niels West. All his Icelandics were on beautiful large rolling grass-covered hills. Here in Southern Oregon, their Lina had to be pulled off grass several times this summer because