Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-07 Thread Anneliese Virro
On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Janice McDonald wrote: Yes, I realize that this test was for culicoides. But since, for instance, Valurs low value (27) is not at all in sync with his fairly severe symptoms, I am saying that they are caused by something other than no-see-ums. And I wonder what it

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-04 Thread Anneliese Virro
On Feb 2, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Janice McDonald wrote: What is the conclusion? We need to learn more about what causes the symptoms. I would say that these horses are reacting (or not) to something other than culicoides nope. this first portion of the study was to test for culicoides

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-04 Thread Janice McDonald
Yes, I realize that this test was for culicoides. But since, for instance, Valurs low value (27) is not at all in sync with his fairly severe symptoms, I am saying that they are caused by something other than no-see-ums. And I wonder what it is. Anneliese oh I see... from what I

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-03 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Feb 2, 2008 5:34 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh oh, maybe he is allergic to sand and i will have to send him to wales :) Or you could send him to New Brunswick.. :D V

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-02 Thread Janice McDonald
What is the conclusion? We need to learn more about what causes the symptoms. I would say that these horses are reacting (or not) to something other than culicoides. nope. this first portion of the study was to test for culicoides only. This is the results to CULICOIDES. So now we

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-02 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:34:50 -0600, you wrote: nope. this first portion of the study was to test for culicoides only. This is the results to CULICOIDES. So now we find out next test what they are further alergic to in addition. That's what I meant - the horses that have low results for

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-02 Thread Janice McDonald
On Feb 2, 2008 2:15 PM, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I meant - the horses that have low results for Culicoides but still show symptoms are more than likely reacting to something else. uh oh, maybe he is allergic to sand and i will have to send him to wales :) But he has

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-02-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:38:44 -0500, you wrote: What is the conclusion? We need to learn more about what causes the symptoms. I would say that these horses are reacting (or not) to something other than culicoides. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-01-31 Thread Anneliese Virro
Hi Janice and all: Has anyone else participated in the SE study? I participated with 5 horses: 4 imports and 1 domestic as a control. The results make only partial sense as far as culicoides are concerned. Itha: 61 makes sense - intermediate clinical symptoms (rubs mane and tail), sore

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-01-31 Thread Karen Thomas
The results make only partial sense as far as culicoides are concerned. What REALLY seems odd to me is that Janice's Nasi - a four-year-old domestic with NO symptoms - had a higher number than any of yours who are known sufferers, except for Itha. Didn't he have something like 56, Janice?

Re: [IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-01-31 Thread Janice McDonald
On 1/31/08, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: haha funny about your bug allergy but not the pneumonia!! As for Nasi, the way I read it, it says if a horse is in that intermediate range and has no symptoms, he may have developed a tolerance over time. I do know his dam has it, came down

[IceHorses] Tivar sweet itch results

2008-01-30 Thread Janice McDonald
The first phase of the Cornell Univ Vet School Sweet itch study results are in. I will copy the results so you all will get to see just what I know. I sent Tivar's bloodwork in as the one with Sweet itch i suspected (he rubbed hair off and had lesions etc) and nasi as the control horse, a horse