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John,
You are absolutely right. Time should be spent developing "good
algorithms" which is common "good architecture". What NAT does is just
another form of the same thing that X.25, ATM, and MPLS do with different
identifiers. It is not bad algorithm there nor bad architecture.
This is
At 22:52 30.11.99 -0500, John Day wrote:
At 18:12 -0500 11/30/99, Mark Atwood wrote:
John Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Correct. Lets get an application name space so we don't need to worry
about it.
Please gods below, not more ASN.1
What a strange reaction!? What does an arcane
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At 10:49 PM 11/30/99 -0500, Keith Moore wrote:
note also that DNS is often slow, and seems less reliable than IP.
by increasing the reliance on DNS you increase the probability of failure.
Data point: out of 40,000 random DNS requests logged on my work station
over the last year, 20% underwent
*
* I don't believe this argument, John. The IP address is (part of) the
* transport layer end point address, something that an application can
* reasonably be expected to know about in the existing Internet
* architecture.
*
* Unfortunately the existing Internet is no
At 11:50 -0500 12/1/99, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Bob,
Bob Braden wrote:
*
* The problem is not to make applications "NAT aware" or "NAT
friendly". The
* problem is to make applications "IP address unaware". What is an
* application doing exchanging and using names for things 2
At 7:06 -0500 12/1/99, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
At 22:52 30.11.99 -0500, John Day wrote:
At 18:12 -0500 11/30/99, Mark Atwood wrote:
John Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Correct. Lets get an application name space so we don't need to worry
about it.
Please gods below, not more
John Day wrote:
Cmon, surely you can come up with a better counterargument than that! ;-))
I certainly could. If it is architecturally acceptable for those protocols
to rewrite the address field at every hop, why shouldn't it be for IP? How
does it differ? Basically a NAT is doing what
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Everyone, this conversation isn't really going to be very productive. The
people who like A aren't about to start liking B, and vice versa. (And then
there are the people who don't like either - but they aren't going to change
their minds either! :-) So discussion on this point is not going to be
Christian:
Is this something that you think is an inherent flaw in DNS? Will this new class
of servers be less susceptible to congestion?
Cary.
Christian Huitema wrote:
At 10:49 PM 11/30/99 -0500, Keith Moore wrote:
note also that DNS is often slow, and seems less reliable than IP.
by
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So we want some application level namespace and a system to translate
it to addresses. What characterstics should such a system have? It
needs to be highly available, so you need replication among multiple
servers. You can't concentrate all the data in one place so it needs
to be distributed,
Christian,
Increasing our reliance on the DNS is definitely not a good idea.
Hmmm. This would appear to be the exact opposite of what the IETF has done
with IPv6.
Rgds,
-drc
Cary,
Is this something that you think is an inherent flaw in DNS?
Inherent flaw in the DNS: probably not. Inherent flaws in implementations of
DNS (including, of course, ISC's BIND) and things in front of the DNS:
probably. It is far too easy to do the wrong thing.
And if this is true
Is this something that you think is an inherent flaw in DNS?
Inherent flaw in the DNS: probably not. Inherent flaws in implementations of
DNS (including, of course, ISC's BIND) and things in front of the DNS:
probably. It is far too easy to do the wrong thing.
this is worth
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:40:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pardon me but, horse hocky! We are not talking about objecting to the
laws but rather how the FBI reacted to a report of a crime. Even tho'
they were pretty sure that they had been handed a red
Bill and all,
Ok, thanks for the update on your status. Much appreciated.
Were you able to provide a contact for Joe? Given your
generic comments below that does not at all seem clear or
likely in the near term.
Bill Manning wrote:
Is there a name there at iana of someone who can be
Well - Bill told me he could help them out. I didn't want to burden
anyone with it unnecessarily.
This whole iana trip is a really big bother. Information is always
outdated, updates are never on time. And when updates are done - critical
information like whois servers are not properly
Joe and all,
! wrote:
I've been doing our little annual update with the cctld community -
basically verifying that what is contained in the iana database is
correct. And usually it's not.
You mean as usual don't ya Joe? ;)
This year - I'm being approached by alot of tld admins who
Thanks Jeff - i've sent a note to manning and have advised the cctld admin
accordingly.
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Jeff Williams wrote:
Joe and all,
! wrote:
I've been doing our little annual update with the cctld community -
basically verifying that what is contained in the iana database is
Is there a name there at iana of someone who can be responsible enought to
get this done.
Try Bill Manning. I don't have his E-Mail address handy though.
Bill Manning has not had anything to do with the IANA task for
a long time. He is busy with other activities
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