Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Dean Willis
On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:51 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > > > 1) There are no SRV records. > > 2) Therefore browsers do not support them. > > 3) Therefore you'd need to allow for A-lookup as fallback for the forseeable > future. > > 4) Therefore there's no incentive for browsers to support SRV.

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > 2011/7/21 Dave Cridland : >> It's proven impossible, despite effort, to retrofit SRV onto HTTP; there is >> no way it'll be possible to retrofit onto WS. > > Right. If WS borns with no SRV (as a MUST for WS clients) then just > forget it a

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:36:10PM +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Scott Schmit wrote: > > > _http._tcp.example.com. SRV 0 99 80 www.example.com. > > _http._tcp.example.com. SRV 0 1 80 www-ds.example.com. > > www.example.com. A 198.0.2.1 > > www-ds.example.com. A 198.0.2.2 > > www-ds.example.com. AA

Last call comments on draft-mpls-tp-identifiers-06.txt

2011-07-22 Thread George Swallow
I¹ve addressed the last call comments received on the list as well as some comments on ­05.txt that were received after the WG LC completed. The response to specific comments are in a spreadsheet which can be found at http://www.pi.nu/~loa/MPLS-TP-Identifiers_IETF_LC_Comments.xls I¹ve also addres

Re: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 transitionissues))

2011-07-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Mykyta Yevstifeyev" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:16 AM > Subject: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 > transitionissues)) ... > And what could/should be done? I think, IESG and the whole community, > cooperating with IAB, IRSG and ISE, should dete

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Masataka Ohta
Scott Schmit wrote: > _http._tcp.example.com. SRV 0 99 80 www.example.com. > _http._tcp.example.com. SRV 0 1 80 www-ds.example.com. > www.example.com. A 198.0.2.1 > www-ds.example.com. A 198.0.2.2 > www-ds.example.com. 2001:db8::2 > > I.e., content providers could control/measure their proba

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <9031.1311328268.180517@puncture>, Dave Cridland writes: > On Fri Jul 22 01:11:33 2011, Masataka Ohta wrote: > > Dave Cridland wrote: > > > > > It's proven impossible, despite effort, to retrofit SRV onto HTTP; > > > > Where is a proof? > > Sorry, I've a habit of using the word "proo

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 07:34:49PM +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Dave Cridland wrote: > > >> Where is a proof? > > > > Sorry, I've a habit of using the word "proof" in the English > > > 1) There are no SRV records. > > 2) Therefore browsers do not support them. > > 3) Therefore you'd need to all

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Masataka Ohta
Dave Cridland wrote: >> Where is a proof? > > Sorry, I've a habit of using the word "proof" in the English > 1) There are no SRV records. > 2) Therefore browsers do not support them. > 3) Therefore you'd need to allow for A-lookup as fallback for the > forseeable future. > 4) Therefore there's

Re: SRV and http(s) (was Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard)

2011-07-22 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mark Andrews wrote: >>> Transitioning HTTPS to use SRV is complicated because of proxies. >>> There needs to be changes to how clients talk to proxies for HTTPS >>> + SRV to work through proxies. >> CONNECT server.example.org:100 HTTP/1.1 >> Host: www.example.com > > I was referring to th

Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 transition issues))

2011-07-22 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
Noel and all, The meaning of Historic has alway been a bit unclear. Neither 2026 nor its predecessors say enough about this category for RFCs; particularly, it fails to describe what are the procedures for moving RFCs to Historic, whether one is allowed to publish documents directly to Histo

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Jul 22 03:24:41 2011, David Endicott wrote: there are added inefficiencies. Also the name resolution of the HTTP that serves the Javascript that opens the WS should remain constant. If WS resolves the host/domain to a different address than the HTTP it was spawned from, it become

Re: [hybi] Last Call: (The WebSocket protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-22 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Jul 22 01:11:33 2011, Masataka Ohta wrote: Dave Cridland wrote: > It's proven impossible, despite effort, to retrofit SRV onto HTTP; Where is a proof? Sorry, I've a habit of using the word "proof" in the English (and indeed Welsh) sense of "test" or "trial", rather than the mathema