Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Under the long-standing IETF policy defined in RFC 2804, I trust we will not be discussing this draft, or draft-balaji-l2vpn-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis, in the IETF. Regards Brian Carpenter On 30/07/2012 09:26, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Randy Bush
Under the long-standing IETF policy defined in RFC 2804, I trust we will not be discussing this draft, or draft-balaji-l2vpn-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis, in the IETF. aol

Draft IESG Statement Regarding Ethertype Requests

2012-07-30 Thread IETF Chair
Last week the IAB and the IESG met with the leadership of IEEE 802. One of the things that was discussed was the IEEE policies for allocating EtherTypes, and the IESG is considering the attached IESG Statement to implement an IETF policy that aligns with the IEEE policy. If you have an

ISOC@IETF 84 Briefing Panel - World IPv6: Launched!

2012-07-30 Thread Kevin Craemer
As a reminder, the Internet Society is organizing a briefing panel on Tuesday, 31 July, 11:45am - 12:45pm PDT, in conjunction with IETF 84 in Vancouver: World IPv6: Launched! On June 6, 2012, more than 50 access providers and thousands of websites around the globe joined together in

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Scott O Bradner
2804 does not say not to talk about such things - or that such documents should not be published as RFCs - 2804 says that the IETF will not do standards work in this area Scott On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Under the long-standing IETF policy defined in RFC 2804, I

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Eric Burger
We seem to be doing a lot of talking about the draft. On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Scott O Bradner wrote: 2804 does not say not to talk about such things - or that such documents should not be published as RFCs - 2804 says that the IETF will not do standards work in this area Scott

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-bis-updates-18

2012-07-30 Thread Richard L. Barnes
Hey Andrew, Thanks for following up, and sorry for the lag. Thank goodness for IETF meetings giving us time to process email :) Couple of responses inline. MAJOR: 4.1. It's not clear what the threat model is that this section is designed to address. If the zone operator is malicious,

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Randy Bush
2804 does not say not to talk about such things - or that such documents should not be published as RFCs - 2804 says that the IETF will not do standards work in this area for those of us who are easily confused, could you differentiate between working on douments and publishing them as rfcs

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Yes, Scott, that is correct, sorry for my poor phrasing. Brian On 30/07/2012 17:33, Scott O Bradner wrote: 2804 does not say not to talk about such things - or that such documents should not be published as RFCs - 2804 says that the IETF will not do standards work in this area Scott

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Stephen Farrell
I agree with the comments about 2804. I do note a lot of April 1 RFCs in the references though, so maybe its all a joke. S On 07/30/2012 06:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Yes, Scott, that is correct, sorry for my poor phrasing. Brian On 30/07/2012 17:33, Scott O Bradner wrote: 2804

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Glen Zorn
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 19:26 +0100, Stephen Farrell wrote: I agree with the comments about 2804. I do note a lot of April 1 RFCs in the references though, so maybe its all a joke. Gotta be! S On 07/30/2012 06:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Yes, Scott, that is correct, sorry for

Re: [OPSAWG] Last Call: draft-ietf-opsawg-automated-network-configuration-04.txt (Problem Statement for the Automated Configuration of Large IP Networks) to Informational RFC

2012-07-30 Thread Randy Bush
The IESG has received a request from the Operations and Management Area Working Group WG (opsawg) to consider the following document: - 'Problem Statement for the Automated Configuration of Large IP Networks' draft-ietf-opsawg-automated-network-configuration-04.txt as Informational RFC in

bar BoF ITS Intelligent Transportation Systems, today 19h30-20h30, room Plaza C

2012-07-30 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Dear IETFers, I invite to join us at the bar BoF ITS - IP for Intelligent Transportation Systems today 30 july 2012 19h30-20h30 Vancouver at Pacific time room Plaza C, 2nd floor email list i...@ietf.org, https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its webex

RE: Draft IESG Statement Regarding Ethertype Requests

2012-07-30 Thread Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
(I hope not to open some Pandora box or a long thread - my goal is to make sure there is clarity in the language of the statement) What 'IETF protocol specification' means here? Pretty clear it covers protocols defined in IETF standards-track documents. Does it also cover protocols defined

Re: Draft IESG Statement Regarding Ethertype Requests

2012-07-30 Thread Russ Housley
Dan: Only protocol specifications make use of Ethertypes. The statement is intended to apply to any protocol specification on the IETF Stream (Standards Track RFC, Informational RFC, or Experimental RFC) that needs to allocate a new Ethertype. Russ On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Romascanu,

Open Internet Endowment Initial Campaign

2012-07-30 Thread IETF Chair
Today at IETF 84 in Vancouver, Lynn St. Amour and I announced the creation of the Open Internet Endowment and its initial campaign focused on ensuring the IETF's long-term financial health and continued independence. The web site is up and running. It offers more information and accepts

Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Barry Leiba
I have just posted the draft cited below, to adjust the NomCom eligibility rules to make the following change: RFC 3777 excludes from eligibility as NomCom volunteers: - members of the ISOC Board of Trustees - sitting members of the IAB - sitting members of the IESG The IAOC did not

Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-00.txt

2012-07-30 Thread Donald Eastlake
Sees reasonable. While you are at it, you might complete the I* with IANA... Thanks, Donald = Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Barry Leiba

Draft IESG Statement Regarding Ethertype Requests

2012-07-30 Thread IETF Chair
Last week the IAB and the IESG met with the leadership of IEEE 802. One of the things that was discussed was the IEEE policies for allocating EtherTypes, and the IESG is considering the attached IESG Statement to implement an IETF policy that aligns with the IEEE policy. If you have an

New Non-WG Mailing List: laminar -- TCP algorithm refactoring discussion list

2012-07-30 Thread IETF Secretariat
A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. List address: lami...@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/laminar/ To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/laminar Purpose: This list is for discussing the Laminar TCP and how to proceed with it, through

Open Internet Endowment Initial Campaign

2012-07-30 Thread IETF Chair
Today at IETF 84 in Vancouver, Lynn St. Amour and I announced the creation of the Open Internet Endowment and its initial campaign focused on ensuring the IETF's long-term financial health and continued independence. The web site is up and running. It offers more information and accepts

NomCom 2012-2013: Third Call for Volunteers

2012-07-30 Thread NomCom Chair
The NomCom 2012-2013 Call for Volunteers is nearing its conclusion. If you are considering volunteering to participate in the 2012-2013 NomCom, please volunteer soon. Individuals willing to serve on this year's NomCom must send email to nomcom-ch...@ietf.org on or before Sunday, August 5.