last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread Eliot Lear
In the process of doing the apps area review, I came across some points that were not related to applications. The basis for these comments is precisely the sentiment that Russ Housley expressed, which is that the specification is done when there is no more to remove. With this document, I

Re: Meritocracy, diversity, and leaning on the people you know

2013-04-22 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 19/04/2013 19:13, Ted Hardie wrote: As a working group chair, when I stare out at a sea of faces looking for a scribe, the chances of my asking someone I know produces good minutes is much higher than my asking someone whose work I don't know. Think about how this often works in WGs

IAOC Announces Meeting Registration Gender Data Gathering Decision

2013-04-22 Thread IETF Administrative Director
On 11 April the IAOC announced that it was considering asking for gender information during the IETF meeting registration process starting with IETF 87, and asked for the community to provide feedback by 17 April as the IAOC planned to make a decision on 18 April. The data is being gathered to

RE: The Purpose of WG participants Review (was Re: Purpose of IESG Review)

2013-04-22 Thread l.wood
And the technology that my team is pushing would be Saratoga: http://saratoga.sf.net which has interoperable implementations that can do 50Mbps in perl, a decade of operational experience in its application domain, and mature drafts. But this is in the transport area, and TSV has somewhat

RE: Meritocracy, diversity, and leaning on the people you know

2013-04-22 Thread Moriarty, Kathleen
Being a scribe can be a good way for people to know who you are (the scribe). From reading the thread on this, when you ask someone who is new, how about having them sit next to someone who is more familiar with the attendees to help with names? Maybe for those which English is not a first

last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread RJ Atkinson
Earlier, Eliot Lear wrote: % Put simply, you are over-specifying the RID % and derive no benefit from doing so. There is benefit to implementers in having a specific example that is known to meet the requirements of this specification. This benefit also accrues to users, as implementers are

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread Sam Hartman
RJ == RJ Atkinson rja.li...@gmail.com writes: RJ I oppose Eliot's proposed edits on grounds that they would RJ reduce the clarity of the specification and also would reduce RJ IETF and WG consensus about this specification. Ran, I just checked, and you don't seem to be a 6man

Re: Meritocracy, diversity, and leaning on the people you know

2013-04-22 Thread Riccardo Bernardini
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen kathleen.moria...@emc.com wrote: Being a scribe can be a good way for people to know who you are (the scribe). From reading the thread on this, when you ask someone who is new, how about having them sit next to someone who is more familiar

R: R: Last Call Expired: draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14.txt

2013-04-22 Thread Salvatore D'Antonio
Dear Benoit, all I submitted v16 of the Internet Draft. I modified section 9.1.1 on the maintenance of the flowSelectorAlgorithm registry and fixed the editorial issue in section 6.1.1 I have also used MUST in section 6.1 Best regards, Salvatore Da: Benoit Claise

Re: p1: Via and gateways

2013-04-22 Thread Willy Tarreau
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 12:21:52AM -0700, David Morris wrote: On Sat, 20 Apr 2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: p1 Section 2.3 says: However, an HTTP-to-HTTP gateway that wishes to interoperate with third-party HTTP servers must conform to HTTP user agent requirements on the

Re: p1: Via and gateways

2013-04-22 Thread Willy Tarreau
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 05:55:59PM +1000, Mark Nottingham wrote: On 20/04/2013, at 5:21 PM, David Morris d...@xpasc.com wrote: I don't care about MUST, but I think the Via header can be useful for problem determination. A smart content server could also adjust for a detected

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread Martin Rex
Sam Hartman wrote: RJ Atkinson rja.li...@gmail.com writes: RJ I oppose Eliot's proposed edits on grounds that they would RJ reduce the clarity of the specification and also would reduce RJ IETF and WG consensus about this specification. Ran, I just checked, and you don't

Re: The Purpose of WG participants Review (was Re: Purpose of IESG Review)

2013-04-22 Thread Yoav Nir
Well, there isn't a delay tolerant networks working group, but the IRTF has a DTNRG ( http://irtf.org/dtnrg ). At least one of the chairs is a goer. If you really wanted to standardize this, wouldn't you be able to find 1-2 people on the DTNRG list who would be willing to do the BoF thing?

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread Michael StJohns
At 09:56 AM 4/22/2013, Sam Hartman wrote: RJ == RJ Atkinson rja.li...@gmail.com writes: RJ I oppose Eliot's proposed edits on grounds that they would RJ reduce the clarity of the specification and also would reduce RJ IETF and WG consensus about this specification. Ran, I just

Re: The Purpose of WG participants Review (was Re: Purpose of IESG Review)

2013-04-22 Thread Joe Touch
On 4/19/2013 2:02 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: Only that you know enough people so that you could push a new technology even without attending, IETF work officially happens on IETF lists, not at in-person meetings. As per the Tao of the IETF: Any decision made at a face-to-face meeting must also

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread Philipp Kern
Eliot, am Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 06:22:24PM +0200 hast du folgendes geschrieben: I asked the above question because it is at least conceivable that at some point host portion != 64 bits and this is the only place in the document where the requirement is stated. Yes, screwing with the 64 bit

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread Eliot Lear
H Fernando, On 4/22/13 9:23 PM, Fernando Gont wrote: There seems to be a disconnect here: We want an algorithm that, roughly speaking, whenever you connect to the same network, gives you the same address. But such address should be different for each network you connect to. Thank you, and

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread SM
Hi Fernando, Please note that this is not an objection. At 12:40 22-04-2013, Fernando Gont wrote: PLease see the Appendix. I read that. I was confused by the short title (Stable Privacy Addresses) at first. I didn't see much discussion in the draft about privacy considerations. For what

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-ip-cfg-09.txt (A YANG Data Model for IP Management) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-22 Thread Pete Resnick
It did go to IETF-Announce. It's just no longer in the To: field so people stop doing a reply-all and end up sending to it. (Basically, it's Bcc'ed. For e-mail geeks like me: An empty group list of IETF-Announce:; is now in the To: field.) pr On 4/22/13 3:39 PM, Clint Chaplin wrote: Why did

IAOC Announces Meeting Registration Gender Data Gathering Decision

2013-04-22 Thread IETF Administrative Director
On 11 April the IAOC announced that it was considering asking for gender information during the IETF meeting registration process starting with IETF 87, and asked for the community to provide feedback by 17 April as the IAOC planned to make a decision on 18 April. The data is being gathered to

Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-ip-cfg-09.txt (A YANG Data Model for IP Management) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-22 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the NETCONF Data Modeling Language WG (netmod) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for IP Management' draft-ietf-netmod-ip-cfg-09.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final

Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-interfaces-cfg-10.txt (A YANG Data Model for Interface Management) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-22 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the NETCONF Data Modeling Language WG (netmod) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for Interface Management' draft-ietf-netmod-interfaces-cfg-10.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and

Last Call: draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-04.txt (Relative Location Representation) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-22 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Geographic Location/Privacy WG (geopriv) to consider the following document: - 'Relative Location Representation' draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-04.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits

Protocol Action: 'A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for Examples' to Best Current Practice (draft-saintandre-urn-example-05.txt)

2013-04-22 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for Examples' (draft-saintandre-urn-example-05.txt) as Best Current Practice This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Barry

RFC 6920 on Naming Things with Hashes

2013-04-22 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6920 Title: Naming Things with Hashes Author: S. Farrell, D. Kutscher, C. Dannewitz, B. Ohlman, A. Keranen, P. Hallam-Baker Status:

Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-triggered-reconfigure-05.txt (Reconfigure Triggered by DHCPv6 Relay Agents) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-22 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Dynamic Host Configuration WG (dhc) to consider the following document: - 'Reconfigure Triggered by DHCPv6 Relay Agents' draft-ietf-dhc-triggered-reconfigure-05.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and

RFC 6914 on SIMPLE Made Simple: An Overview of the IETF Specifications for Instant Messaging and Presence Using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)

2013-04-22 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6914 Title: SIMPLE Made Simple: An Overview of the IETF Specifications for Instant Messaging and Presence Using the Session

Last Call: draft-ietf-geopriv-held-measurements-07.txt (Using Device-provided Location-Related Measurements in Location Configuration Protocols) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-22 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Geographic Location/Privacy WG (geopriv) to consider the following document: - 'Using Device-provided Location-Related Measurements in Location Configuration Protocols' draft-ietf-geopriv-held-measurements-07.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans

Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-imix-genome-04.txt (IMIX Genome: Specification of variable packet sizes for additional testing) to Informational RFC

2013-04-22 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Benchmarking Methodology WG (bmwg) to consider the following document: - 'IMIX Genome: Specification of variable packet sizes for additional testing' draft-ietf-bmwg-imix-genome-04.txt as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the