Re: Last Call: draft-sheffer-running-code-04.txt (Improving Awareness of Running Code: the Implementation Status Section) to Experimental RFC

2013-04-26 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Reply to your request 12.04.2013 Reviewer: Abdussalam Baryun (AB), Date: 26.04.2013 Sub: comments for I-D: draft-sheffer-running-code-04 ++ The participant reviewer supports the document, very interesting and helpful, my recommendations and comments below,

RE: Last Call: draft-sheffer-running-code-04.txt (Improving Awareness of Running Code: the Implementation Status Section) to Experimental RFC

2013-04-26 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi SM, I have read every word in this document multiple times mainly in the order they were written. :-) Hmmm, you can't be sure what order we wrote them. You can only know what order they are presented in :-) In Section 1: The scope of the intended experiment is all Internet-Drafts

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-26 Thread Ole Troan
Further to that, ifindexes of tunnels and PPP sessions can change dynamically as the bearer connection goes up and down, even if the interface has the same name and authenticated identity. That raises the interesting question of whether even the interface name is stable, as on many systems

Re: [Tools-discuss] Last Call: draft-sheffer-running-code-04.txt (Improving Awareness of Running Code: the Implementation Status Section) to Experimental RFC

2013-04-26 Thread Yaron Sheffer
Hi Fred, Thanks for your review. Responding to you, and to other similar comments on the list: The draft refers to two styles of documenting implementation: in-line in the Internet draft, and by a reference to (presumably) a database or a wiki. The draft is also quite clear that the

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 26/Apr/2013 02:53:58 +0200 Mark Nottingham wrote: Personally, I don't have a firm position on these issues, but I couldn't let this pass by. On 25/04/2013, at 7:38 PM, Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it wrote: DRMs are obviously designed to be non-interoperable, and EME is a standard

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-26 Thread Michael Richardson
Andrew == Andrew McGregor andrewm...@gmail.com writes: Andrew Further to that, ifindexes of tunnels and PPP sessions can change Andrew dynamically as the bearer connection goes up and down, even if the Andrew interface has the same name and authenticated identity. Andrew That

Gen-art review: draft-ietf-dhc-triggered-reconfigure-05

2013-04-26 Thread Robert Sparks
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document: draft-ietf-dhc-triggered-reconfigure-05

Re: [Tools-discuss] Last Call: draft-sheffer-running-code-04.txt (Improving Awareness of Running Code: the Implementation Status Section) to Experimental RFC

2013-04-26 Thread Fred Baker (fred)
On Apr 26, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Yaron Sheffer yaronf.i...@gmail.com wrote: - There should be long-term commitment to maintain the data. I think we simply don't have such processes in place, and personally I don't want to even try to deal with this problem. I suspect that we'd have to

Re: Last Call: draft-sheffer-running-code-04.txt (Improving Awareness of Running Code: the Implementation Status Section) to Experimental RFC

2013-04-26 Thread Dave Crocker
Given this thread on the ietf list, I guess I should forward the following, which was done as a solicited Apps Area review for this draft: Original Message Subject: Review of: draft-sheffer-running-code Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:38:24 -0700 From: Dave Crocker

Re: RE : [dhcwg] Gen-art review: draft-ietf-dhc-triggered-reconfigure-05

2013-04-26 Thread Robert Sparks
On 4/26/13 10:58 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: Dear Robert, Thank you for the review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : dhcwg-boun...@ietf.org [dhcwg-boun...@ietf.org] de la part de Robert Sparks [rjspa...@nostrum.com] Date d'envoi :

Re: [Tools-discuss] Last Call: draft-sheffer-running-code-04.txt (Improving Awareness of Running Code: the Implementation Status Section) to Experimental RFC

2013-04-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, April 26, 2013 16:07 + Fred Baker (fred) f...@cisco.com wrote: On Apr 26, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Yaron Sheffer yaronf.i...@gmail.com wrote: - There should be long-term commitment to maintain the data. I think we simply don't have such processes in place, and personally I

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-26 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Ole, On 04/26/2013 06:11 AM, Ole Troan wrote: If you want a stable address, you want to use something that actually has the exact stability properties you require, and interface indexes and names are seldom what you actually need. could we simplify the hash to only include the prefix,

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06.txt (A method for Generating Stable Privacy-Enhanced Addresses with IPv6 Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC)) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-26 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Alissa! Thanks so much for your feedback! -- Please find my comments in-line... On 04/25/2013 06:32 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: There are two places where it is implied that the algorithm in this spec mitigates most of the privacy issues associated with embedding IEEE identifiers in

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-26 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Andrew, On 04/26/2013 12:43 AM, Andrew McGregor wrote: Further to that, ifindexes of tunnels and PPP sessions can change dynamically as the bearer connection goes up and down, Would we be doing SLAAC for these? even if the interface has the same name and authenticated identity. That

RE: Last Call: draft-sheffer-running-code-04.txt (Improving Awareness of Running Code: the Implementation Status Section) to Experimental RFC

2013-04-26 Thread SM
Hi Adrian, At 23:42 25-04-2013, Adrian Farrel wrote: Hmmm, you can't be sure what order we wrote them. You can only know what order they are presented in :-) I like the finesse of the technical argument. :-) I think you are right. Of course, individuals pushing drafts to the ISE could do

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 26/04/2013 23:38, Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Fri 26/Apr/2013 02:53:58 +0200 Mark Nottingham wrote: Personally, I don't have a firm position on these issues, but I couldn't let this pass by. I've thought about this a bit and looked at some on-line discussions. In as far as this might be

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: 1. DRM is a fact of life, and it is therefore better that there should be a well-formulated standard than a free-for-all. A free-for-all is a guaranteed route to non-interoperability. Crack cocaine,

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread Josh Howlett
OK, pardon the cheap shot, but I don¹t think SDOs that have some sort of stewardship relationship to the Internet should ever play any part whatsoever in the facilitation of DRM. So it's ok to define protocols that manage access to services (e.g., TLS, GSS, SASL, etc), but not to the content

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 04/26/2013 10:23 PM, Josh Howlett wrote: OK, pardon the cheap shot, but I don¹t think SDOs that have some sort of stewardship relationship to the Internet should ever play any part whatsoever in the facilitation of DRM. So it's ok to define protocols that manage access to services

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread Martin Rex
Brian E Carpenter wrote: 3. EME should have a very low or zero cost of entry for a content provider. DRM system are evil in any way you look at it. Originally, copyright was a conceived as a temporary (50yrs) monopoly. The protection period has in recent years been prolonged in many years to

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread SM
At 02:38 25-04-2013, Alessandro Vesely wrote: The Encrypted Media Extensions (EME, a.k.a. DRM in HTML5) specification is not a real DRM itself. It provides for add-on parts described as Content Decryption Modules that provide DRM functionality for one or more Key Systems. DRMs are obviously

Re: W3C standards and the Hollyweb

2013-04-26 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Alessandro Vesely wrote: If you haven't done so already, please sign the FSF petition: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/no-drm-in-html5 The W3C is asking for comments on its Encrypted Media Extensions pro- posal, including on whether W3C should continue work on the document, to be sent to the

WG Review: Forwarding and Control Element Separation (forces)

2013-04-26 Thread The IESG
The Forwarding and Control Element Separation (forces) working group in the Routing Area of the IETF is undergoing rechartering. The IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the