Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion(Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-17 Thread Tom.Petch
Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "Henning Schulzrinne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "lconroy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion(Re: Tracking reso

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-16 Thread Dave Crocker
Henning Schulzrinne wrote: The table of mappings constitutes an on-going administrative challenge. Also as noted, not all I-Ds are tied to working groups. But every draft should be able to fit into one of the IETF areas; ... Setting up a mailing list for each personal draft, with unclear '

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-16 Thread Henning Schulzrinne
The table of mappings constitutes an on-going administrative challenge. Also as noted, not all I-Ds are tied to working groups. But every draft should be able to fit into one of the IETF areas; all areas have, as far as I know, area-wide mailing lists. At least for TSV, the list has

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-16 Thread Dave Crocker
lconroy wrote: What is missing is a mapping from WG to the ML subscribe address. I would have thought that this could be a fairly fixed table that could be used by a reasonable hack to xml2rfc. If there is a workgroup element, the tied ML address could be auto-generated and placed on the next l

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-16 Thread lconroy
Hi again folks, xml2rfc does process the Blah element already. I assume that this element will be removed/replaced during RFC-ED processing. Thus structured naming of drafts is not needed if the I-D author does his/her job. What is missing is a mapping from WG to the ML subscribe address. I

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-15 Thread Harald Alvestrand
lconroy wrote: Hi Folks, as a slight counter to that: I have had feedback in the past from WGs that it is unwise to include the WG's ML inside a draft intended (eventually) to be an RFC. The rationale was that the WG (and its ML) will disappear, whilst an RFC is forever. However, an unprocess

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-15 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Henning Schulzrinne wrote: While not harmful, I'm not sure this is necessary if the more-or-less standard naming convention for drafts is followed for non-WG drafts: draft-conroy-sipping-foo-bar indicates that the author Conroy believes the sipping WG to be the appropriate place for discussio

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-15 Thread Dave Crocker
Henning Schulzrinne wrote: While not harmful, I'm not sure this is necessary if the more-or-less standard naming convention for drafts is followed for non-WG drafts: draft-conroy-sipping-foo-bar indicates that the author Conroy believes the sipping WG to be the appropriate place for discuss

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-15 Thread Henning Schulzrinne
While not harmful, I'm not sure this is necessary if the more-or-less standard naming convention for drafts is followed for non-WG drafts: draft-conroy-sipping-foo-bar indicates that the author Conroy believes the sipping WG to be the appropriate place for discussion, just like draft-sippi

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-15 Thread lconroy
Hi Folks, as a slight counter to that: I have had feedback in the past from WGs that it is unwise to include the WG's ML inside a draft intended (eventually) to be an RFC. The rationale was that the WG (and its ML) will disappear, whilst an RFC is forever. However, an unprocessed/not updat

Re: Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-15 Thread Cullen Jennings
On Jan 15, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: I have argued for years that an I-D that doesn't say in its "status of this memo" section which mailing list it is to be discussed on is incomplete, but I don't seem to have achieved much success for that. 100% agree. On many of my dr

Identifying mailing list for discussion (Re: Tracking resolution of DISCUSSes)

2007-01-15 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:26:33 -0500 John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps we should make it a requirement that any document that is Last Called must be associated with a mailing list, perhaps one whose duration is limited to the Last Call period and any