Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-16 Thread Michael Dillon
   Sadly, bahn.de seems to have restricted its scope to Europe. Last week I    searched for a connection from Oslo to Pyongyang, and bahn.de couldn't    show me any. I think there are trains from Vladivostok and/or Beijing,    but they're not in the database. Yes, once you get into the former

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-16 Thread Adrian Farrel
I cannot recommend http://www.seat61.com/ enough for all worldwide train travel. Adrian - Original Message - From: Michael Dillon wavetos...@googlemail.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht Sadly, bahn.de

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 13, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: Jaap == Jaap Akkerhuis j...@nlnetlabs.nl writes: Jaap I'm not really planning to take a train to IETF-79 but it is Jaap an interesting idea. The Dutch internatial railway site Jaap

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-14 Thread Scott Brim
Michael Richardson allegedly wrote on 07/13/2010 20:41 EDT: Cool. But, it would be more cool ifwe just had the IETF *on* that train :-) +1. My father once had a long meeting on a train from Ottawa to Vancouver. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 13 jul 2010, at 7:19, Hasnaa Moustafa wrote: I understood that the train runs daily from Brussels to Maastricht. There are more than 10 connections daily. I can't seem to find the direct Brussels - Maastricht train right now, though, the best options I see are with two changes. When in

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
On 13 jul 2010, at 7:19, Hasnaa Moustafa wrote: I understood that the train runs daily from Brussels to Maastricht. There are more than 10 connections daily. I can't seem to find the direct Brussels - Maastricht train right now, though, the best options I see are with

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Right, but Dutch trains are not nearly as nice as German ICE trains. Ole On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Note though that there are options with more changes that are more than an hour faster, Eindhoven is about 100 km beyond Maastricht seen from Frankfurt.

RE: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Yoav Nir
: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht On 13 jul 2010, at 7:19, Hasnaa Moustafa wrote: I understood that the train runs daily from Brussels to Maastricht. There are more than 10 connections daily. I can't seem to find the direct Brussels - Maastricht train right now, though, the best

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 13 jul 2010, at 9:22, Ole Jacobsen wrote: Right, but Dutch trains are not nearly as nice as German ICE trains. There are many different kinds of trains in the Netherlands. Indeed only some of them equal ICEs. However, by traveling through Eindhoven you're almost certainly subjecting

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
On 07/13/2010 09:23 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: When in doubt, consult www.bahn.de Since Brussles is i Belgie the last timeI looked, you might be better of looking athttp://www.b-rail.be/main/E/ That's the same software. If b-rail.be is competent about updating its route database with

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Health
- Original Message - From: Arnt Gulbrandsen a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht On 07/13/2010 09:23 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: When in doubt, consult www.bahn.de Since Brussles

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
That's the same software. If b-rail.be is competent about updating its route database with other companies' trains, then the results will be exactly as good as for bahn.de. In that case, give ns.nl (dutch railways) a try. They seem to list during the day a direct train between

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Ole Jacobsen
(Not sure why this ended up on the main list instead of just the ietf-78-attendees, but): Right. My initial search (long time ago), gave Frankfurt Airport to Maastricht via Strassbourg as the best option (combination of least time and least changes), this later changed to Eindhoven, and yes,

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
On 07/13/2010 11:38 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: I'm not really planning to take a train to IETF-79 but it is an interesting idea. The Dutch internatial railway site http://www.nshispeed.nl/nl/internationale-trein planner does show you the Oslo- Peking trip which seems to take 196 hrs 2 min

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 13 jul 2010, at 11:38, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: That's the same software. If b-rail.be is competent about updating its route database with other companies' trains, then the results will be exactly as good as for bahn.de. In that case, give ns.nl (dutch railways) a try. They seem to

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread John Levine
There are more than 10 connections daily. I can't seem to find the direct Brussels - Maastricht train right now, though, the best options I see are with two changes. The SNCB web site is reasonably competent: http://www.b-europe.com/Voyager/Acheter/Billets On Sunday there don't seem

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 7/13/10 3:33 PM, John Levine wrote: There are more than 10 connections daily. I can't seem to find the direct Brussels - Maastricht train right now, though, the best options I see are with two changes. The SNCB web site is reasonably competent:

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Michael Richardson
Jaap == Jaap Akkerhuis j...@nlnetlabs.nl writes: Jaap I'm not really planning to take a train to IETF-79 but it is Jaap an interesting idea. The Dutch internatial railway site Jaap http://www.nshispeed.nl/nl/internationale-trein planner does Jaap show you the Oslo - Peking trip

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-13 Thread Basil Dolmatov
13.07.2010 13:38, Jaap Akkerhuis пишет: That's the same software. If b-rail.be is competent about updating its route database with other companies' trains, then the results will be exactly as good as for bahn.de. In that case, give ns.nl (dutch railways) a try. They seem to list

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-12 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 12 jul 2010, at 17:47, Andrew G. Malis wrote: Do you know if there is any sort of shuttle van service from Brussels Airport to Maastricht? That could be an easier option, given the luggage. As my company will be paying, I don't mind a higher cost as long as it's not astronomical, as I

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-12 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
Sorry about my previous message, this was a private message that I accidentally sent to the list. The one I really had in mind: On 12 jul 2010, at 19:53, Chris Elliott wrote: I thought we were talking about how to do this for the meeting in Maastricht and then in Beijing. I agree that

Back to authentication on the IETF network (was: Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht)

2010-07-12 Thread Chris Elliott
We will not be doing 802.1X authentication on any wired ports. Remember, we really want an open network, while giving people a way of encrypting their wireless traffic. This time, in preparation for Beijing, we have the requirement to authenticate that people using the wireless network are

Re: Back to authentication on the IETF network (was: Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht)

2010-07-12 Thread Ted Hardie
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Chris Elliott chell...@pobox.com wrote: I will suggest that in Beijing we may need to physically authenticate people coming into the terminal room, but I will leave the decision on whether and how to do that up to the host in Beijing. Chris. What does

Re: Back to authentication on the IETF network (was: Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht)

2010-07-12 Thread Chris Elliott
On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Chris Elliott chell...@pobox.com wrote: I will suggest that in Beijing we may need to physically authenticate people coming into the terminal room, but I will leave the decision on whether and

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-12 Thread Randy Bush
I would even argue that restricting everything to WPA2 and 802.11g or better would be entirely reasonable by now. i am sure you would. the meeting net ops are responsible for seeing that as many people can get on net as possible. the object is to deliver packets not religion. to that end,

Re: Back to authentication on the IETF network (was: Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht)

2010-07-12 Thread Randy Bush
What does physically authenticate people mean here? Show that they have a badge (common and meets the stated requirement of keep the IETF network for IETF attendees)? Or write down the name? Or write down the name and the network port for the cable they pick up? we'll probably never know.

Re: Back to authentication on the IETF network (was: Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht)

2010-07-12 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 7/12/10 5:48 PM, Randy Bush wrote: What does physically authenticate people mean here? Show that they have a badge (common and meets the stated requirement of keep the IETF network for IETF attendees)? Or write down the name? Or write down the name and the network port for the cable they

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-12 Thread Hasnaa Moustafa
I understood that the train runs daily from Brussels to Maastricht. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.comwrote: On 12 jul 2010, at 17:47, Andrew G. Malis wrote: Do you know if there is any sort of shuttle van service from Brussels Airport to Maastricht?

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-07-12 Thread Ole Jacobsen
These are the trains I am taking: Sunday, July 25: ICE 138 Frankfurt Flughafen Frnb - Eindhoven 0943-1247 IC 841 Eindhoven - Maastricht 1302-1404 One change, easy enough. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile:

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-06-30 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
Some more Amsterdam airport - Maastricht train info: On 27 jun 2010, at 22:01, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: From there, there's a train to the city of Utrecht every 30 minutes at x.29 and x.59. This is a 33 minute ride. When you arrive in Utrecht, change to the train to Maastricht, which

Re: IETF 78: getting to/from/around Maastricht

2010-06-27 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
A paper train ticket is 25 euros; if you want to go to Maastricht Randwyck is the same but it needs to say Maastricht Randwyck on the ticket. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf