Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:39, Roshan Mathews wrote: > There must be other companies which make money from Free and/or Open > Source software, but it would be hard to imagine that (m)any of them > have greater revenues than those generated by the largest grossing > closed source software. > It see

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Abishek Goda
> he is doing it for a living i definitely need to meet him :) Abishek ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:17 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:56, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:39 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > >> RedHat makes money (and profits) by selling Open > >> Source software, and support. > > > > redhat does not sell so

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:10 +0530, Abishek Goda wrote: > > he got the contract - I have no idea what fraction this was of the > total > > cost of setting up the network, but it would have been only a small > > fraction. (btw, there is a company that charges 2.5 lakhs to set up > a 60 > > seat FOSS

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:56, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:39 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: >> RedHat makes money (and profits) by selling Open >> Source software, and support. > > redhat does not sell software > http://www.redhat.com/rhel/ -- http://roshan.mathews.in/ ___

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi, > he got the contract - I have no idea what fraction this was of the total > cost of setting up the network, but it would have been only a small > fraction. (btw, there is a company that charges 2.5 lakhs to set up a 60 > seat FOSS lab - and Basker does it free. So who makes more money?) Sorry

[Ilugc] altering tables with postgres

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I have the following code which is self explanatory: begin; alter table web_stockist add column "contactperson" varchar(200); alter table web_stockist add column "designation" varchar(200); update web_stockist set contactperson = 'xyz'; update web_stockist set designation = 'xyz'; alter tab

Re: [ilugc] how to end some transcations on fedora13

2010-10-13 Thread amit sharma
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Arun SAG wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:23 PM, amit sharma >wrote: > > > > > >1. whenever i connect to internet ,it gives a popup that packages cannot > > be > > >updated > > >you must use yum-complete-transactions but it will not work. > > >2. whenever i

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:43 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:36, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > typical example: a friend was asked to quote for some complicated > > network setup. The windows people had quoted something like 8 lakhs > for > > software and 1.5 lakhs for in

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:39 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > RedHat makes money (and profits) by selling Open > Source software, and support. redhat does not sell software -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread JITHIN K
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:21 PM, sivaji j.g wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Raman.P wrote: > > > > > > > Since it is local server, network problem is ruled out. > > > > Look at the process running in your system. > > > Yes. Check the CPU usage with top command when you make page reque

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread JITHIN K
Hi Aswin, For mantis access log please follow the link http://dpaste.com/257651/ For Mantis error log http://dpaste.com/257654/ Regards Jithin K On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:04 PM, ashwin kesavan wrote: > On 13 October 2010 13:41, JITHIN K wrote: > > Hi Aswin , > > > > This what i analyzed >

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:36, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > typical example: a friend was asked to quote for some complicated > network setup. The windows people had quoted something like 8 lakhs for > software and 1.5 lakhs for installation and configuration. My friend > quoted 0 lakhs for software

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:18, Yogesh Girikumar wrote: >> , for eg. canonical ltd. provides ubuntu >> os for free of cost even they are shipping cd for free,there is a team >> to work who is paying them. how they run the organization without >> getting penny amount from people. >> > I hear that "M

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Hrishikesh Murali < hrishikeshmural...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > > > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > > >

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:17 +0530, Hrishikesh Murali wrote: > wrote: > > > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make > profit > > > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > > > no > > -- > > regards > > KG > > > > Why do you say so? typical example: a frie

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Hrishikesh Murali
Hi, On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > no > -- > regards > KG > Why do you say so? -- Thanks and Regards, Hrishikesh Murali ___

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 09:01 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM, balaji sivanath > wrote: > > > >Their sources are selling customer support and training, then i > think > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > > >much lower than that of proprie

[Ilugc] IP Aliasing

2010-10-13 Thread Govi
Hi all, I have one ethernet card(eth0) , with three ip address(2 aliases). When ever i am establishing a connection it was sending through eth0 only .incomming packets are receiving for all the ips. My questions all the outgoing packets are sent through eth0 only or i will sent through any

[Ilugc] Re: how to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 without reinstalling existing application

2010-10-13 Thread Mohan R
On Thursday 14 October 2010 08:12 AM, balaji sivanath wrote: but what about how to upgrade using "cd image" without reinstallation Hi friend, there is something called search-engine, try to use it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD

[Ilugc] Debian Lenny - Sound Issue

2010-10-13 Thread அ . சரவணன்
Hi All, I am having a system with AMD Athelon XII 250 Processor, Asus M2N68-AM PLUS Mother board with Nvidia Chipset, I have windows XP and Debian Lenny in my system, The sound in Debian Lenny is very low when compared to windows system. Is there any way to Increase the sound. அ. சரவணன் ___

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Arun SAG
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM, balaji sivanath wrote: > >Their sources are selling customer support and training, then i think > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > Yes. _

Re: [Ilugc] how to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 without reinstalling existing application

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
>Try to knock windows off your mind when you think about software in Linux. >They work differently. Windows has its own idiosyncrasies. Read up on Linux >filesystem hierarchies and about what goes where. i will check out.. thanks:) but what about how to upgrade using "cd image" without reinstalla

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
Their sources are selling customer support and training, then i think in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinf

Re: [Ilugc] afraid of virus

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
>1. Do you really need WINE? (linux has better softwares than the one >that will run on WINE and the softwares that are truly unique and not >available in linux usually don't run on WINE) installed wine just for getting knowledge how windows application runs in linux thanks for your replies _

Re: [Ilugc] afraid of virus

2010-10-13 Thread openbala
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:34 AM, openbala wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:45 AM, balaji sivanath > wrote: >> hi, >> i installed wine for using my windows application,now exe files can be >> run in ubuntu. if i insert pendrive which is having virus and >> mistakenly if i ran it in wine,will th

Re: [Ilugc] afraid of virus

2010-10-13 Thread openbala
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:45 AM, balaji sivanath wrote: > hi, > i installed wine for using my windows application,now exe files can be > run in ubuntu. if i insert pendrive which is having virus and > mistakenly if i ran it in wine,will the virus affect my system? Unfortunately, it is not that st

Re: [Ilugc] Reg : Linux distro for

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2010/10/12 Arun Prakash > > LinuxMint (Debian ) > > Omega ( Redhat ) > > These two distros come with default multimedia support .ie., with all > plugins . > And Ubuntu Studio ?? -- Yogesh. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listin

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2010/10/14 openbala > > Well, this might not be a perfect answer, but what I know of as an answer. > > Better than my answer for sure. ;) Thank You, Yogesh. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] how to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 without reinstalling existing application

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2010/10/14 balaji sivanath > another query: where all my installed softwares reside (like in > windows c:/program files) > They reside under /var/ . Configuration files reside under /etc/ Try to knock windows off your mind when you think about software in Linux. They work differently. Windows ha

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread openbala
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:35 AM, balaji sivanath wrote: > hi, > This is an unanswered question for me from the time i entered into > open world! (8 or 9 months before). > how people doing business using opensource software. Most of the > opensource software are available at free of cost how are th

Re: [Ilugc] how to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 without reinstalling existing application

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2010/10/14 balaji sivanath > hi, > i am using ubuntu 10.04 in which i have installed all software which i > require (like oracle,chrome browser,vlc...), am going to upgrade to > 10.10 using cd image. how to upgrade so that i dont need to reinstall > all those stuffs. > another query: where all my

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi, 2010/10/14 balaji sivanath > how people doing business using opensource software. Most of the business involves "SELLING" support. Support (directly from the company or its partners) costs money. True, there are people on forums and mailing lists who can help a lot. But if an enterprise is

Re: [Ilugc] afraid of virus

2010-10-13 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 06:45:15AM +0530, balaji sivanath wrote: > hi, > i installed wine for using my windows application,now exe files can be > run in ubuntu. if i insert pendrive which is having virus and > mistakenly if i ran it in wine,will the virus affect my system? It could potentially aff

[Ilugc] afraid of virus

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
hi, i installed wine for using my windows application,now exe files can be run in ubuntu. if i insert pendrive which is having virus and mistakenly if i ran it in wine,will the virus affect my system? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailm

[Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
hi, This is an unanswered question for me from the time i entered into open world! (8 or 9 months before). how people doing business using opensource software. Most of the opensource software are available at free of cost how are they gaining money to run the organization, for eg. canonical ltd. pr

[Ilugc] how to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 without reinstalling existing application

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
hi, i am using ubuntu 10.04 in which i have installed all software which i require (like oracle,chrome browser,vlc...), am going to upgrade to 10.10 using cd image. how to upgrade so that i dont need to reinstall all those stuffs. another query: where all my installed softwares reside (like in wind

Re: [Ilugc] MTS Mblaze internet connection problem in Ubuntu

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2010/10/13 Mehul Ved > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Yogesh Girikumar > wrote: > > You are browsing while the torrents are running? > Also, try pinging the website and see what happens. > > no. I'm not doing both at the same time. Pinging google did work. Since the problem is erratic, I will

Re: [Ilugc] Some of my views

2010-10-13 Thread pavithran
On 12 October 2010 13:15, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > basker is there - on a shoe string budget he is doing more than NRC-FOSS Motivated individuals like basker are a great asset to the community :) > has been able to do with all the central government crores! (and do not > take this as a critici

Re: [Ilugc] flot - Attractive Javascript plotting for jQuery

2010-10-13 Thread Manokaran K
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > Flot is a pure Javascript plotting library for jQuery. It produces > graphical plots of arbitrary datasets on-the-fly client-side. > The focus is on simple usage (all settings are optional), attractive > looks and interactive features like

Re: [Ilugc] ubuntu 10.10 install i/o error

2010-10-13 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:37 PM, km wrote: > I have sucessfully burnt the iso image to  CD after checking md5sums. > But at installation, it quits while "copying files"  quoting i/o error. IO error reading from CD or writing to your HDD? > is there a way to check the CD I have burnt ? Easy wa

[Ilugc] Reg: RRD Tool in Debian

2010-10-13 Thread ஸ்வாதி கேசவராஜ்
Hi Friends, I am trying to generate a graph using rrdtool. Normaly rrdtools fetch the graph data from some .rrd files which is stored rrd database file. But i want to fetch the data manually without using any external file. Is this possible, if yes pls help me.. -- Rgds, Swathi Kesavaraj D __

[Ilugc] ubuntu 10.10 install i/o error

2010-10-13 Thread km
Hi all, I ran into a problem at installing ubuntu 10.10 I have sucessfully burnt the iso image to CD after checking md5sums. But at installation, it quits while "copying files" quoting i/o error. what could be the problem ? is there a way to check the CD I have burnt ? thanks, KM __

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread sivaji j.g
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Raman.P wrote: > > > Since it is local server, network problem is ruled out. > > Look at the process running in your system. Yes. Check the CPU usage with top command when you make page request. > I feel it may be using swap. Look at top output. Stop unwanted

Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Create a single PDF from multiple images with ImageMagick

2010-10-13 Thread Mehul Ved
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > You could also use the gs command for that. gs works with images? I have used gs for merging pdf documents but never found a way to convert images and merge them using gs. -- With Regards, Mehul Ved

Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Create a single PDF from multiple images with ImageMagick

2010-10-13 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Tha.Suresh wrote: > Create a single PDF from multiple images with ImageMagick > > $ convert *.jpg output.pdf > >  Given some images (jpg or other supported formats) in input, you > obtain a single PDF file with an image for every page. > > Ex: > > a...@arul-desktop

Re: [ilugc] how to end some transcations on fedora13

2010-10-13 Thread Arun SAG
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:23 PM, amit sharma wrote: > > >1. whenever i connect to internet ,it gives a popup that packages cannot > be > >updated > >you must use yum-complete-transactions but it will not work. > >2. whenever i want to install new softwares it gives same reply. > > 1. Did you r

[Ilugc] Problem with audio output - ubuntu 10.10

2010-10-13 Thread Azhagu Selvan SP
Hi, I recently had a problem with my motherboard and replaced it with a new one. After that the audio stopped working. I used alsaconf to reconfigure it again with no success. After that I recently did a fresh install of ubuntu 10.10. Now when I play something a loud noise is heard from the speake

[ilugc] how to end some transcations on fedora13

2010-10-13 Thread amit sharma
I am new user to linux, i have fedora13 on my laptop.once installing the softwares by using the rpm packages ,there was a power failure, now two problems came 1. whenever i connect to internet ,it gives a popup that packages cannot be updated you must use yum-complete-transactions but it will

[Ilugc] TechMeets #1 - This Saturday 10 AM

2010-10-13 Thread Vatsala Dorairajan
Hi Everyone, A TechMeet is going to happen this saturday - The goal of the techmeet is to discuss and learn new trends,technologies,programming languages,new DBs, virtually anything thats new in the software programming world. Here are the details: When Saturday 16th Oct - 10

Re: [Ilugc] ubuntu 10.10 is released

2010-10-13 Thread Subramani R
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Yogesh Girikumar wrote: > I don't see much of changes to the release, except for a few fonts, > Eucalyptus upgrades and colour schemes. Can you please tell me or point > me to a page where I can find a list of changes? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/Rel

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread ashwin kesavan
On 13 October 2010 13:41, JITHIN K wrote: > Hi Aswin , > >  This what i analyzed > > > 1.  If you enter the website URL in the browser it will load easily. > > 2.  After login the website try refreshing  after 3 to 5 min. Then it will > load too slowly. Once it get refreshed then > >   it will be

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread JITHIN K
HI Raman, *Real memory*1000.91 MB total, 287.56 MB used *Virtual memory*2.86 GB total, 0 bytes used Its not at all using the swap. I checked the Network history its fine. But the apache show poll_schedule_timeout. Any thing else ? Regards Jithin K On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Raman.P

Re: [Ilugc] Linux Certification - Wikibook

2010-10-13 Thread manoj kumar
\--- On Wed, 13/10/10, Yogesh Girikumar wrote: Just thought someone would like to know. There is a very good WikiBook on Linux Certification here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikibooks:*LPI*_Linux_*Certification* Hope someone finds this useful. ---/ http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LPI_Linux_C

Re: [Ilugc] Re: scp command!

2010-10-13 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:28 PM, benedict nicholas < benedictnicho...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dear Mohanraj, > > For copying a folder named ns2 to a remote host with ip 172.16.2.100 root > login, > > scp -r ns2 r...@172.16.2.100:/root > > > scp -r us...@172.16.1.100:/home/user1/ns2us...@172.16

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread Raman.P
--- On Wed, 13/10/10, JITHIN K wrote: > > This what i analyzed > > > 1.  If you enter the website URL in the browser it > will load easily. > > 2.  After login the website try refreshing  after > 3 to 5 min. Then it will > load too slowly. Once it get refreshed then > >    it will be fine.

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread JITHIN K
Hi Aswin , This what i analyzed 1. If you enter the website URL in the browser it will load easily. 2. After login the website try refreshing after 3 to 5 min. Then it will load too slowly. Once it get refreshed then it will be fine. 3. Keep it idle again for 3 to 5 min . And if u relo

[Ilugc] Re: scp command!

2010-10-13 Thread benedict nicholas
 Dear Mohanraj, For copying a folder named ns2 to a remote host with ip 172.16.2.100 root login, scp -r ns2  r...@172.16.2.100:/root scp -r us...@172.16.1.100:/home/user1/ns2    us...@172.16.2.100:/home/user2 Refer man pages for more details With regard, Benedict J.N ___

Re: [Ilugc] MTS Mblaze internet connection problem in Ubuntu

2010-10-13 Thread Mehul Ved
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Yogesh Girikumar wrote: > Also, one peculiar problem is when browsing, the connections are also > very flaky. Not slow, but flaky. I have to refresh the page twice or > thrice to get it loading. Infact some times the page does not load at > all and gives a "page no

Re: [ilugc]webserver responds slowly ?

2010-10-13 Thread ashwin kesavan
On 13 October 2010 10:48, JITHIN K wrote: > Hi Ashwin, > > I can not send the httpd conf  and included config file to the mailing list. > It bounce back  :( > > > Here more information. > >  If i restart the apache service then website will be fast. After some time > again it comes slow. Any idea