Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Petition: Request to drop proprietary software from the free laptops to be distributed by the government to students of Tamil Nadu

2011-06-20 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, One small point: Please remind them that even when matchbox ix bought, (inclusive of all taxes) appear. Which means One should remind that the government should remember that this request is coming from people who are paying for all the Municipal/statr/central govt.pensioners, Hence we

[Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Petition: Request to drop proprietary software from the free laptops to be distributed by the government to students of Tamil Nadu

2011-06-20 Thread Shashank Jain
http://www.fsftn.org/tn-students-laptop-petition -- Forwarded message -- From: Alagunambi Welkin Date: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM Subject: [FSFTN] Petition: Request to drop proprietary software from the free laptops to be distributed by the government to students of Tamil Nadu T

Re: [Ilugc] Press Release to public regarding OS in the Free laptop

2011-06-20 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > I request you to create a detailed writeup, so that we can share in > the press, online media and submit to the government. > I started here. > http://sync.in/letter-to-tngovt > > Please help on creating a nice writeup. > > I have tried t

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Raman.P
--- On Mon, 20/6/11, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > 5860 less than windows? or costs Rs 5860/-? In the Rate Contract the price is for hardware+Windows os+Anti-Virus - bundle. Separate option is given where pre-loaded Linux can be ordered instead of Windows. If this option is exercised then the pr

Re: [Ilugc] school management app

2011-06-20 Thread Gaurav Paliwal
> Thanks for suggesting this , have tried out the demo its fits the > requirement of a school I know who are using some painful broken > propreitary software. This will also help them switch to GNU/Linux > faster( Bundling it with/add extra to http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu > ) :) > @Narendra

Re: [Ilugc] Press Release to public regarding OS in the Free laptop

2011-06-20 Thread Harisankar P S
I *suggest* that we include some graphs and reference to some articles along with the letter to make it feel more authentic and appealing. Referring to success stories around the world can help our cause stand out more http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/french-police-saves-millions-of

[Ilugc] Press Release to public regarding OS in the Free laptop

2011-06-20 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends. We have to contact the TN govt officials to discuss about the OS in the free laptops. We need a writeup describing the need of linux OS and why windows should not be pre-loaded. I request you to create a detailed writeup, so that we can share in the press, online media and submit to the

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Anoop John
> What I meant here is: Nobody (children) would dream of playing games in a > Linux system and would surely try to get their systems Game Compatible > (Windows). Anyways, even if the govt adopts Linux, Will the children who use > it? The Government of Kerala had moved to GNU/Linux based IT curricu

Re: [Ilugc] Clarification on OS development.

2011-06-20 Thread Prasanna Venkadesh
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:38 PM, L. Guruprasad wrote: > > Please avoid cross-posting emails across multiple lists. The reply by > "Yogesh" afaik wasn't posted to this list > (http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2011-June/thread.html) and > people on this list including me don't get the proper

Re: [Ilugc] Clarification on OS development.

2011-06-20 Thread L. Guruprasad
Hi, On Monday 20 June 2011 08:28 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Yogesh wrote: > >> On Saturday 18 June 2011 11:22 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: >> >>> I just wanted to know is there any Linux development is going on for >>> building a system that supports both RP

Re: [Ilugc] Clarification on OS development.

2011-06-20 Thread Prasanna Venkadesh
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Yogesh wrote: > On Saturday 18 June 2011 11:22 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: > >> I just wanted to know is there any Linux development is going on for >> building a system that supports both RPM and DEB packages to be used in a >> single Distribution without use o

[Ilugc] Janrain Engage or Gigya Socialize or ?? for Drupal

2011-06-20 Thread Hameed
Hi Friends Have you used Janrain Engage or Gigya Socialize for Drupal - for increasing your social presence? Your reviews are appreciated. Would you recommend using them? There are individual FREE drupal modules for each facebook, twitter, etc. - which means separate development effort and te

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Vivek Rajagopalan
> If such a thing happens, you will end up making a political mistake of > giving "Useless" systems to school children and cheating people. The > opposition would argue that why can't government give "good" systems by > spending just extra 1K for a 20-30K product and instead "cheat" people in > gi

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Vivek Rajagopalan < vi...@unleashnetworks.com> wrote: > > > Think of playing Games in Linux. I bet thats the first thing most school > > children would do. So I think we are just pushing the expenditure away > from > > govt and towards the children making the money

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 18:07 +0530, Raman.P wrote: > --- On Mon, 20/6/11, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > > how much do you think redhat/canonical/novell will charge > > for linux? > > -- > > > In case of Govt of India Purchase under DGS & D rate contract > pre-installed linux systems costs Rs.5

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Raman.P
--- On Mon, 20/6/11, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > how much do you think redhat/canonical/novell will charge > for linux? > -- In case of Govt of India Purchase under DGS & D rate contract pre-installed linux systems costs Rs.5860 less than equivalent Windows PC. This is for Redhat Desktop ed

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 17:40 +0530, Vivek Rajagopalan wrote: > One idea is to hardware lock (say via a custom BIOS ??) the system > into > a single supported distro of Linux. They would have to carry the unit > to > a service centre to unlock it and install anything else - at which > point > they

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Vivek Rajagopalan
> Think of playing Games in Linux. I bet thats the first thing most school > children would do. So I think we are just pushing the expenditure away from > govt and towards the children making the money to flow away from single Co > to local service centers and such. What are the rules here ? Can t

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 12:53 +0100, balachandar muruganantham wrote: > > If we use Gnu/Linux, we can save the 90Cr. > > may be... how much do you think redhat/canonical/novell will charge for linux? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread balachandar muruganantham
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > > > Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition > > with Anti Virus for > > 1 year license and Linux. > > If the windows costs min 1000 INR, > 9,00,000 * 1,000 = 90,00,00,000 > > 90 Cr rupees will be given to Microso

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > no - supplying company has to set up a service center in each district. > > The law may make the Service Center to be set up, but does everyone go to it? (Why travel 1hr when my next house friend can do it?) I never met a person who ser

Re: [Ilugc] school management app

2011-06-20 Thread pavithran
On 18 June 2011 11:27, Bruce Mathew wrote: > FEDENA is a good choice.. Thanks for suggesting this , have tried out the demo its fits the requirement of a school I know who are using some painful broken propreitary software. This will also help them switch to GNU/Linux faster( Bundling it with/add

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread openbala
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > Friends. > > Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition > with Anti Virus for > 1 year license and Linux. > > For what its worth, you can't even install visual studio 2010 express edition (which is free) on a Window

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Anoop John
I think it would definitely be beneficial to have the meetings with ELCOT Director and IT Secretary. It would also be good to issue press releases to all major media channels - print+visual. In Kerala for similar government level decisions what we (FSUG-Tvm) have done in the past have been to meet

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 15:31 +0530, abdur rahman wrote: > i hope as soon as the laptops are released 1st it ill go to private > service > centers near by :P as ELCOT TVs went :D there those guys will > reformat > it and they ill install the pirated copy of XP or WIN7 and make money > from > that

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread abdur rahman
i hope as soon as the laptops are released 1st it ill go to private service centers near by :P as ELCOT TVs went :D there those guys will reformat it and they ill install the pirated copy of XP or WIN7 and make money from that the thing is we need to aware the service center guys and the ha

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Manikandan B
Hi guys, Such a stupid waste of money to install the laptops with propreitary software. Since July 8 is the deadline, the first thing is to schedule the meeting with the officials as proposed by Shrinivasan. Those who are in India can do this.. I live abroad. What i did is I create

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread JAGANADH G
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Raman.P wrote: > My thoughts on this subject > > a.ELCOT is already aware of FOSS benefits. > b.Role of voluntary organisation like us is very limited > But still we can raise our concern in this subject. Ans we can give a detailed letter stating the facts and

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Nataraj S Narayan
Hi May a mass mailing to to go for fully Linux laptops? I used to get few things done (like repair of roads) by sending complaints to this Chief Minister's ID. Of course, those were the times of Ms Jayalalitha's previous tenure, things were prompt. Maybe we could give a try in the capacity of

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Raman.P
My thoughts on this subject a.ELCOT is already aware of FOSS benefits. b.Role of voluntary organisation like us is very limited c.Since this is going to be a business decision which involves not only software but such other things like service support etc. only commercial entities can do someth

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Hameed
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > > > > > > > Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition > > > with Anti Virus for > > > 1 year license and Linux. > > > > If the windows costs min 1000 INR, > > 9,00,000 * 1,000 = 90,00,00,000 > > > > 90 Cr rupees wi

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread JAGANADH G
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > Friends. > > On Jun 18, 2011 TamilNadu Govt announced a Tender for > "9 lakh" free laptops for the students. > > Here is the Tender Notice : > > http://www.tenders.tn.gov.in/pubnowtend/uploaded/TD_elc58921_tn_laptop_scheme.pdf > > > http://e