Re: [Ilugc] java programmers required

2011-03-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 08:13 +0530, yessel எஸ்ஸல் wrote: For a Oracle based solution we need Java programmers. Pl. respond is this an open source project? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___

Re: [Ilugc] java programmers required

2011-03-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 13:27 +0530, Guruprasad wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Raja simman arajasim...@gmail.com wrote: I'm Rajasimman doing 3rd yr CSE of GKM Coll of engineering. I'm havin a gud knowledge if core java. Ve done few applications also. I'm willling to work with it.

Re: [Ilugc] java program

2011-03-26 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 18:00 +0530, kani mozhi wrote: plz help me immediately ,i want to combine several which i have written in source code .i have written ten modules i want to combine that and want to give a jdbc connectivity to that.its my project help me immediately I do not think we are

Re: [Ilugc] Urgent:-Need a experienced PHP programmer to join my team

2011-03-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 12:20 +0530, krish wrote: if you or anyone among your friends circle, has about 5 years solid experience in PHP, please contact me, as i am taking up big project, involving php coding. in future please add [commercial][job] tag for such posts (unless you are not planning

Re: [Ilugc] [commercial] In50hrs - Idea to Prototype

2011-03-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 20:52 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: In50hrs is an event, loosely based on several existing formats of weekend prototyping events. these are your words? or a quote? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Fedora14 updated issue.

2011-03-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 08:08 -0400, Vijay Kumar wrote: I have tried many times to update the kernel how? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] Fedora14 updated issue.

2011-03-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 18:55 +0530, sri@gmail.com wrote: Could please explain how you tried and whats the exact output you got? please do not top post -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS - for making MONEY

2011-03-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 15:28 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: Now, unless you have something to add based on facts you are aware of, you are just trolling. Please don't do that, it just wastes everybody's time. this is uncalled for. He does not troll. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS - for making MONEY

2011-03-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 15:59 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 15:38, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 15:28 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: Now, unless you have something to add based on facts you are aware of, you are just trolling

Re: [Ilugc] FDP PROGRAM

2011-03-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 11:34 +0530, asharaf sharaf wrote: sorry sir , this is asharaf from dhanalakshmi srinivasan college of engg technology. we are interested to conduct the fdp program for our faculty members where is the college? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG

Re: [Ilugc] FDP PROGRAM

2011-03-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 17:10 +0530, Asokan Pichai wrote: I am all for doing these sessions, whatever be their reason for hosting it if two or more students in a batch of 150 get excited, it is worth it. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

[Ilugc] seminar at Srisakthi Engineering college, coimbatore

2011-03-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, Ilugcbe members conducted a seminar for the students of Srisakthi engineering college, Coimbatore - Python in the morning and Perl in the afternoon. For a change they gave very decent usable mementos ;-) pics:

Re: [Ilugc] FDP PROGRAM

2011-03-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 05:39 +0530, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: if two or more students in a batch of 150 get excited, it is worth it. We are talking about less than 2% conversion rate here. That is not enough. it is enough - those two people will soon be giving their own talks to batches

Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] Linux Systems Admin / Operations Engineer

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:45 +0530, Gourav Shah wrote: - BE/BS in computer related field a must any specific reason for this? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] Linux Systems Admin / Operations Engineer

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:53 +0530, Debayan Banerjee wrote: On 15 March 2011 11:50, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:45 +0530, Gourav Shah wrote: - BE/BS in computer related field a must any specific reason for this? Do you care if your doctor

Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] Linux Systems Admin / Operations Engineer

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 12:22 +0530, Debayan Banerjee wrote: yes - because I have yet to meet a self taught doctor. I would still prefer a person with a Computer Science degree. with due respect I bank on my experience of nearly 20 years of employing people in this field. I have yet to find

Re: [Ilugc] ssd and linux

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 13:51 +0530, Vamsee Kanakala wrote: 25 seconds and you are worried? I think the full django test suite takes 5-10 minutes with sqllite. Like I mentioned, time taken to run test suites becomes important when you're doing TDD. but do not forget the huge amount of

Re: [Ilugc] ssd and linux

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 14:35 +0530, Asokan Pichai wrote: On 15 March 2011 13:51, Vamsee Kanakala vkanak...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2011 10:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [SNIPPED] A curiosity question: like make, is there a facility to run only those tests

Re: [Ilugc] What can we do with Ruby on Rails?

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 19:23 +0530, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: Consider a weather forecasting site which updates the weather report on a hourly basis and they provide this report as a service where other sites like NDTV, or any news channels website uses this service to provide information of

[Ilugc] [Fwd: [ilugcbe] Sixth Meeting Report]

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
Forwarded Message From: JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com Reply-to: ilug...@googlegroups.com To: ilug...@googlegroups.com Subject: [ilugcbe] Sixth Meeting Report Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:05:09 +0530 Hi All Sixth ILUGCBE meeting report The Sixth meeting of ILUGCBE and one day

Re: [Ilugc] What can we do with Ruby on Rails?

2011-03-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 09:01 +0530, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: Is there any suggestions for my example? am looking to develop webservices using FOSS. so I need some suggestions first learn to post - why do you insist on top posting? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG

Re: [Ilugc] Gui for python

2011-03-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 15:54 +0530, ( [YeSwAnTh] )- wrote: I would like to know the gui package which can be used to build application for any platform namely windows , linux(any desktop) and os x . wxPython -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox

Re: [Ilugc] Gui for python

2011-03-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 16:28 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 15:54 +0530, ( [YeSwAnTh] )- wrote: I would like to know the gui package which can be used to build application for any platform namely windows , linux(any desktop) and os x . wxPython and try to avoid

Re: [Ilugc] Gui for python

2011-03-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 06:23 -0700, Thoufi Tiger wrote: I would like to develop for linux.. first learn how to post -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] suse linux 11.0

2011-03-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 09:30 +0530, karthi keyan wrote: How to install suse linux 11.0 packages. I want the information the file is rpm,tar etc... afaik it uses rpm - there is tool called yast which apparently does what yum and apt-get do. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore

Re: [Ilugc] ssd and linux

2011-03-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 09:49 +0530, Vamsee Kanakala wrote: On SSDs, read and write speeds do not differ as heavily as with spindle counterparts. IIRC, SSD reads are of the order of 750 Mbps and writes are of the order of 650 Mbps. Thanks for the replies guys, I'd have to say the test

Re: [Ilugc] Gui for python

2011-03-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 10:41 -0700, Thoufi Tiger wrote: I came across TkInter and wxPython and confused which is preferred for working best in linux.. wxPython - Tkinter is very limited. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

[Ilugc] ssd and linux

2011-03-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, on IRC people are raving about SSDs - what's the word in India about linux and SSDs? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] ssd and linux

2011-03-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 17:18 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: on IRC people are raving about SSDs - what's the word in India about linux and SSDs? SSD is just flash hard disk. I once got it working but never got time to play with it. It is not really tiny. I think over time it will

Re: [Ilugc] Modes of Huawei's EC1260 Photon Plus (CDMA, HSIA, Dual)

2011-03-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 14:28 +0530, bhanuv...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Huawei's EC1260 Photon Plus for over an year and a half now. are you giving a prize for the LUG that gives you the best solution? If so, kindly announce the amount - otherwise kindly explain why you are cross

Re: [Ilugc] Modes of Huawei's EC1260 Photon Plus (CDMA, HSIA, Dual)

2011-03-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 15:14 +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: are you giving a prize for the LUG that gives you the best solution? If so, kindly announce the amount - otherwise kindly explain why you are cross

Re: [Ilugc] Modes of Huawei's EC1260 Photon Plus (CDMA, HSIA, Dual)

2011-03-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 15:37 +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: there are hundreds of documents on all these things - what we need is a document on how to get people to read documents. I was asking more in Indian context.. also, we can declare single mailing list for asking any foss query..

Re: [Ilugc] Need a reason on php and mysql

2011-03-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 14:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: This is the combination that is part of LAMP if you will check the Oreilly archives you will find that LAMP meant Linux, Apache, MySQL and perl. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Need a reason on php and mysql

2011-03-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 16:01 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 03/09/2011 02:40 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 14:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: This is the combination that is part of LAMP if you will check the Oreilly archives you will find that LAMP meant Linux

Re: [Ilugc] need LAN connectivity without internet for few systems.

2011-03-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 13:41 +0530, Arun Khan wrote: (btw, not giving the lab internet is a very very bad way of setting up an instructional lab) Having been involved in training, I used to feel the same way until I realized that some of the students are more interested in surfing than

Re: [Ilugc] Guidelines for the FOSS Lab Manual Project

2011-03-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 15:27 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: to know the reason for it. (This may seem dumb, as I'm new to version control systems; kindly point it out if it's so). In GIT there is a file you can add to your project named .gitignore, where you can add the list of file extensions

Re: [Ilugc] Need a reason on php and mysql

2011-03-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 22:03 +0530, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: Most of the time i am seeing and i have heard people saying php mysql . they are both equally b0rked ;-) -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

[Ilugc] merge in mercurial

2011-03-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, a dumb question, but could not find the answer anywhere. I do a pull and am told there are 4 heads. Do I merge all 4 - the earliest first, or will a merge with the latest suffice? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] need LAN connectivity without internet for few systems.

2011-03-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 12:36 +0530, రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ wrote: I have this requirement to setup a small lab, where we have ~30 PCs, all will be working on ubuntu. I need them to be connected in LAN. Also I need to connect one of these systems(meant for instructor) to Internet. The rest systems

Re: [Ilugc] Free and Open Source Licenses

2011-03-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:06 -0500, Kumaran R wrote: As he is interested in Intellectual Property rights, there is no such thing as intellectual property rights - in fact the whole term is an oxymoron. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] [ Needed Resources ] Bio-Informatics tools in FOSS

2011-03-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 23:10 +0530, Prasanna Venkadesh wrote: Can anyone please provide me some links or resources for the tools that can be used for Bio-Informatics using FOSS? biopython -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th

2011-03-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 18:05 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: Instead of rude one line threats, these kind words will help the people to understand the mistakes and rectify themselves. yes - I am working hard to be more user-friendly. Please do not hesitate to point out if I am not. -- regards KG

Re: [Ilugc] Identifying the source of high memory usage

2011-03-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 16:49 +0530, Raman.P wrote: the RAM use reported by `free -m`. What was the cpu load at that time? Some program may not use much memory but use lot of cpu, then also we see drop/stagnant performance. I have experienced some such blackouts, while using rsync or

Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th

2011-03-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 15:19 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: Give some examples on how we have to announce the event Ubuntu Developer Week and the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek to the list. like this: quoting from this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek [quote]

Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu and Upstream

2011-03-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 15:29 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: As you told in the other thread like ubuntu is not giving back to upstream, please provide some examples for that. I am not aware of that so far. If ubuntu is denying developers for upstream contribution, we can take some serious actions

Re: [Ilugc] syntax highlighting

2011-03-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 12:24 +0530, krishna kumar wrote: i want the color highlited in doc format what is doc format? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] syntax highlighting

2011-03-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 12:46 +0530, krishna kumar wrote: to take the printouts in color with syntax highlighting to edit in windows MS word / .doc what does the 'L' stand for in the name of this group? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] kde

2011-03-01 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 13:58 +0530, Raju Kumar wrote: i am using kde desktop for few days it was so good whether it is stable one or not depends on the distro - it is not very stable on fedora 12 and earlier -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox

Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th

2011-03-01 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 10:02 +0530, Arun Khan wrote: When you quote - please say so *or* simply forward the email. Most MUAs are smart and will put a FWD prefix (or something similar) on the subject line. unfortunately the OP keeps doing this even though he has been repeatedly reminded ;-)

Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th

2011-03-01 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 10:38 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: Coming to the contents of the post, it is all Ubuntu centric; nothing wrong on the surface but ... how does your contribution to Ubuntu go upstream so that other distros can also benefit? As all the code for ubuntu are hosted in

Re: [Ilugc] how to send EOF

2011-02-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 13:50 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I have a C program that counts newlines. The algorithm for counting the number of lines in a text file is tricky. How exactly are you planning to do

[Ilugc] how to send EOF

2011-02-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I have a C program that counts newlines. Running it from the console, the newline counter increments each time enter is pressed. Now I need to send EOF to make the program print the total number of lines. How do I do that? ref: KR 1.5.3 -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore

Re: [Ilugc] Dns resolving issue

2011-02-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 23:18 +0530, Akilan R wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Thanigai rajan thanixra...@gmail.comwrote: Today I changed the IP of a particular domain, It will take 24 hours to 3 days for DNS in which century was this? it propagates in 10 minutes to a couple of

Re: [Ilugc] how to send EOF

2011-02-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 11:14 +0530, Asokan Pichai wrote: CTRL-D in Linux thanks -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] Dns resolving issue

2011-02-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 12:13 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: in which century was this? it propagates in 10 minutes to a couple of hours By the specs, DNS caches should honor the domain's TTL values

Re: [Ilugc] Dns resolving issue

2011-02-24 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 12:19 +0530, Arun Khan wrote: My domain registrar (GoDaddy) says it *may* take 48-72 hours for the changes to propagate worldwide. I found that changes are seen very quickly in my laptop (no proxy), but take a long time to penetrate squid in the office. -- regards KG

Re: [Ilugc] Smart Cards for my Company

2011-02-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 17:18 +0530, mohanraj velusamy wrote: i want to clone my hard disk to another hard disk which contains dual os winxp and linux what has this got to do with Smart cards? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Smart Cards for my Company

2011-02-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 11:38 +0530, Karthik Reddy wrote: I would like to issue smart cards for all my employees. I thought of keeping smart card reader for every door to enter into the room for the authorized employee only. For the same, I would like to know who is best economical smart card

Re: [Ilugc] [OT][Commercial] A World Cup game site

2011-02-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 13:03 +0530, openbala wrote: As Arun said, the API Id, key and secret are potentially abusable. In fact, in my app I request for permission to post on their wall (to inform that the results are out) So, I've to hide those from the source code in the fork and show it

Re: [Ilugc] Python list.reverse()

2011-02-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 15:16 +0530, Sudharshan S wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: In fact, I cannot really imagine using a immutable list. Its called as a tuple :P. and a horrible thing it is too - you have to write the whole thing

Re: [Ilugc] Python list.reverse() [was: Re: [Fwd: [ilugcbe] Fifth Meeting Pics Sri Shakthi Institute of Engineering and Technology updated in Open Street Map]]

2011-02-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 10:49 +0530, openbala wrote: The general consensus is that mutability is bad for programming. cannot be - otherwise python would not use it ;-) -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Python list.reverse()

2011-02-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 12:46 +0530, Vinod Parthasarathy wrote: Note that the numbers list has not changed even after calling 'reverse' method. The general consensus is that mutability is bad for programming. YMMV. There is both a bad and a good side to mutability. Mutability can give

Re: [Ilugc] Python list.reverse() [was: Re: [Fwd: [ilugcbe] Fifth Meeting Pics Sri Shakthi Institute of Engineering and Technology updated in Open Street Map]]

2011-02-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:01 +0530, openbala wrote: cannot be - otherwise python would not use it ;-) Well, to be fair to python, almost all documentations say that 'list' is mutable and tuple should be used for immutability. And just because a language uses a feature doesn't mean the

Re: [Ilugc] Thank you

2011-02-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 04:11 -0500, ramraj santhanam wrote: hi now am inside your ILUGC thank you for accepting me rather we have to thank you for joining us -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] [Announcement] Delhi/NCR Python Users Group India - Started

2011-02-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 12:43 +0530, Venkatraman S wrote: w.r.t python in NCR region, then cant we have one python ml across india and then have the local subgroups won't work - India is a large country. We need local and national level mailing lists. -- regards KG

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 07:52 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: You should have started with the book The C Programming Language by Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie (2nd Edition). yes sir - right away. I have several copies of it. I got a fresh copy - it rocks. (although I have only

Re: [Ilugc] Atom Processor as Server

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 15:38 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: Not recommended for performance reasons. Atom chipsets are limited to 2GB RAM, and CPU has 512KB cache and dual cores only. Atom has severely limited PCI bandwidth I use an atom with usb boot for displaying things on a digital tv.

Re: [Ilugc] Atom Processor as Server

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 15:53 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I use an atom with usb boot for displaying things on a digital tv. PMI. What is a digital TV? You mean a TV LCD which would take input from

Re: [Ilugc] Atom Processor as Server

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 15:57 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I use an atom with usb boot for displaying things on a digital tv. Sure, an Atom CPU + Nvidia ION chipset running XBMC can comfortably drive 1080p HD

Re: [Ilugc] Atom Processor as Server

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 16:18 +0530, Chandrashekar Babu wrote: Its like fitting wheels of a bullock cart to a Ferrari sports car. actually it is like fitting ferrari wheels on a bullock cart. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

[Ilugc] digital camera

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, can anyone recommend a decent linux compatible digital camera? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] digital camera

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 18:47 +0530, Natarajan V wrote: Note: I have never had any problems connecting Nikkon (SLR), Sony (Point and Shoot) or Cannon (Point and shoot) cameras. Never tried other models. panasonic used to give me headaches. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore

Re: [Ilugc] choosing a distro

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 23:12 +0530, madhavan raghavan wrote: can you people suggest me a distro to horn my core linux skill , i mean a distro whre one needs a knowledge to do one ting rather than easily doing using GUI ? gentoo -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox

Re: [Ilugc] digital camera

2011-02-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 08:54 +0530, krish wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: hi, can anyone recommend a decent linux compatible digital camera? Wait for Nikon S6100.. pure awesome coming this march. Btw, whats the price constrains

[Ilugc] [Fwd: [ilugcbe] Fifth Meeting Pics Sri Shakthi Institute of Engineering and Technology updated in Open Street Map]

2011-02-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
Forwarded Message From: Biju .B bijub...@gmail.com Reply-to: ilug...@googlegroups.com To: ilug...@googlegroups.com Subject: [ilugcbe] Fifth Meeting Pics Sri Shakthi Institute of Engineering and Technology updated in Open Street Map Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:49 +0530 Hi all

[Ilugc] [Fwd: [ilugcbe] Fifth Meeting Minutes]

2011-02-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
Forwarded Message From: JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com Reply-to: ilug...@googlegroups.com To: ilug...@googlegroups.com Subject: [ilugcbe] Fifth Meeting Minutes Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:17:04 +0530 Hi All The minutes of Fifth ILUGCBE Meeting is posted at

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 11:23 +0530, Vinod Parthasarathy wrote: Here's one way of writing factorial in Haskell. factorial 0=1 factorial n=n*factorial(n-1) neat! Nice, isn't it? Just the way you learnt it in school! Pattern matching rules! btw, welcome back to the list. -- regards KG

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 13:57 +0530, Chandrashekar Babu wrote: And here's the pythonic way: factorial = lambda n: n and n*factorial(n-1) or 1 lambda is not considered pythonic (by guido anyway) -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 11:09 +0100, Aanjhan R wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: conclusions after that point.If you want to discuss this further, catch me up on IRC or mail me offlist. I am sure the list needn't be bothered further with

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 17:39 +0530, Chandrashekar Babu wrote: lambda expressions as such was not mentioned by Guido as unpythonic anywhere. he wanted to drop lambda and I think reduce and map - but he was made to change his mind and reluctantly kept them. -- regards KG

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 18:50 +0530, Chandrashekar Babu wrote: On 10/02/11 12:14 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: However the good news is that I seem to be getting on ok with C - feels very primitive, but the good thing is the internet which explains all the errors and warnings. Last three

Re: [Ilugc] need a web mail client with pop3 support

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 19:26 +0530, steve wrote: Any recommendations are for a POP3 web mail client are very welcome. Thanks! Horde supports pop3: http://www.horde.org/webmail/ However, I personally have used it only in an IMAP setup so do not know how good/easy/painless it is to

Re: [Ilugc] need a web mail client with pop3 support

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 20:59 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: There is nothing mutt does not support. except perhaps for the fact that it is not a web mail client? Please try to contribute to the battle against global warming by not top posting. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 02:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 02/10/2011 08:25 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: I have read the citation you have given - 6 times so far. There is nothing about license there - the citation talks of what you call governance - governance is bad and is the root

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 03:03 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [ The different modes of development have already well established names. Look up Open Core, centralized copyright etc) these are fruits of my independent research and observations note 1: Change of license is only possible if all

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 08:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Another example is that it is not possible to really sell aka assign copyright to another entity at all in some regions. which regions? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 13:55 +0530, Chandrashekar Babu wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations? IMHO you can learn C and skip

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 09:41 +, Nataraj S Narayan wrote: How about FreePascal and its IDE, Lazarus? http://freepascal.org and http://lazarus.freepascal.org. I forgot to add that I used turbo pascal from 87 to 92 and do not want to go back -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 10:58 +, Nataraj S Narayan wrote: Maybe you tried Ruby? ouch -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 17:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: You continue to vehemently miss the point I have been making. frankly I am totally unable to understand the point you have been making. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 18:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: frankly I am totally unable to understand the point you have been making You already agreed on the fundamental point I was making which is that a decision on which license to pick for your projects is an important one. yes How

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 10:50 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: On Feb 9, 2011 11:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. Still a scripting language

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 04:20 +, Asokan Pichai wrote: That I am not very sure. *you* are in my camp - w000t -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] Confirmed talk for this month meet

2011-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 13:03 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: Arun Tejasvi Chaganty http://arun.chagantys.org/ I guessed arun sag or arun venkataswamy ;-) -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 18:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 02/05/2011 08:42 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: well the whole thing started when you said 'look what happened to NetBSD' - so what happened Not quite what I said. The whole thing actually started off as a commentary on licenses

[Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 11:48 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations? I'd suggest lisp

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 20:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I am not talking of nature of development - I am talking of success or failure of a project. Sure. We are talking about two different things. I wasn't concerned about failure or success in any of these discussions. well the

Re: [Ilugc] Confirmed talk for this month meet

2011-02-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 12:21 +0530, sivaji j.g wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 00:24 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: Topic : Google Summer of Code - What, Why, How. what is his name? snip As a GSoC participant in 2008, Arun will talk about what the program is about, what it's like being a

Re: [Ilugc] PuduvaiLUG activities

2011-02-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 09:40 +0530, Raman.P wrote: a 'bar' camp in Pudhuvai will be ideal for many. bars in pudhuvai are much better than in TN ;-) -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC

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