Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-24 Thread Padhu
On Monday 20 June 2011 06:07 PM, ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in wrote: simpler to shoot anyone who uses windows ;-) KG wants to form an new world Try to tie up with Osama group.. Hahahaha... :-) ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-22 Thread sivakumar bharadhwaj
Dear Sir, Though this will be a out-off-topic : free beer others too, are available in every meeting / presentations / product launches, given by corporate companies, almost every month ! (sometimes we have to attend friday, saturday sunday too) Ask any friend who is working in IT HW/SW,

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Hameed
Why dont we get in touch with some media house and raise our concern immediately? (I see 2 more threads on this subject. Request everyone to stick to this thread so that we dont lose track.) ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition with Anti Virus for 1 year license and Linux. Considering almost every user will format the computer and install a pirated version of Windows

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
- Interested students will learn Linux. There is no use forcing students to use Linux. I am Linux fan now. I love vi now. But I remember 15 years back when it was forced on me I hated vi. This produced a random thought in my mind. When Open Source is all about freedom, why force Linux

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread openbala
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote:   - Interested students will learn Linux. There is no use forcing students   to use Linux. This produced a random thought in my mind. When Open Source is all about freedom, why force Linux on students and

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Manokaran K
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.comwrote: Considering almost every user will format the computer and install a pirated version of Windows anyways (I could not get my wife to work in Linux because she could not get a small windows game to work in Linux) I

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Arun SAG
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Manokaran K manoka...@gmail.com wrote: The laptops are meant for govt and govt aided school students - students from the less privileged class. Many of them will be trying for a job soon after school. Wrong, if you want them to goto jobs, You better invest

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:50 PM, openbala damodaran.bal...@gmail.comwrote: I can only assume that the Chennai Linux community is so shocked by such statements that there is no one replying or they're actually busy with writing letters to the government. I am not into the power circles or

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Manokaran K
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong, if you want them to goto jobs, You better invest the money on teachers/school infrastructure, good practical oriented syllabus. Most students will play games/watch movies or sell the laptop to some others for a good

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 21:50 +0530, openbala wrote: I'm bad at comparisons and generalizations, but its like saying 'why stop giving free alcohol and force them to have only free healthy food?' where is free alcohol available? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Magesh Dhasayyan
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:25 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote: Dual booting isn't going to harm anyone! I said we shouldn't force Linux on people like Windows was once done (in above context), that way Linux would become the new windows. I hope every linux user would accept

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 08:09 +0530, Magesh Dhasayyan wrote: Does anyone know if the current curriculum has excluded Windows completely? If it has been excluded completely, then I agree that single booting Linux totally makes sense. I wonder how many people in this thread use single booting

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-21 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: where is free alcohol available? Beat that... :) -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

[Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends. On Jun 18, 2011 TamilNadu Govt announced a Tender for 9 lakh free laptops for the students. Here is the Tender Notice : http://www.tenders.tn.gov.in/pubnowtend/uploaded/TD_elc58921_tn_laptop_scheme.pdf

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Shrinivasan T
Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition with Anti Virus for 1 year license and Linux. If the windows costs min 1000 INR, 9,00,000 * 1,000 = 90,00,00,000 90 Cr rupees will be given to Microsoft. If we use Gnu/Linux, we can save the 90Cr. -- Regards,

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Arvind S Raj
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition with Anti Virus for 1 year license and Linux. If the windows costs min 1000 INR, 9,00,000 * 1,000 = 90,00,00,000 90 Cr rupees will be given

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread JAGANADH G
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Friends. On Jun 18, 2011 TamilNadu Govt announced a Tender for 9 lakh free laptops for the students. Here is the Tender Notice : http://www.tenders.tn.gov.in/pubnowtend/uploaded/TD_elc58921_tn_laptop_scheme.pdf

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Hameed
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition with Anti Virus for 1 year license and Linux. If the windows costs min 1000 INR, 9,00,000 * 1,000 = 90,00,00,000 90 Cr rupees

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Raman.P
My thoughts on this subject a.ELCOT is already aware of FOSS benefits. b.Role of voluntary organisation like us is very limited c.Since this is going to be a business decision which involves not only software but such other things like service support etc. only commercial entities can do

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Nataraj S Narayan
Hi May a mass mailing to cmc...@tn.gov.in to go for fully Linux laptops? I used to get few things done (like repair of roads) by sending complaints to this Chief Minister's ID. Of course, those were the times of Ms Jayalalitha's previous tenure, things were prompt. Maybe we could give a try in

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread JAGANADH G
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: My thoughts on this subject a.ELCOT is already aware of FOSS benefits. b.Role of voluntary organisation like us is very limited But still we can raise our concern in this subject. Ans we can give a detailed letter stating

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Manikandan B
Hi guys, Such a stupid waste of money to install the laptops with propreitary software. Since July 8 is the deadline, the first thing is to schedule the meeting with the officials as proposed by Shrinivasan. Those who are in India can do this.. I live abroad. What i did is I

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread abdur rahman
i hope as soon as the laptops are released 1st it ill go to private service centers near by :P as ELCOT TVs went :D there those guys will reformat it and they ill install the pirated copy of XP or WIN7 and make money from that the thing is we need to aware the service center guys and the

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 15:31 +0530, abdur rahman wrote: i hope as soon as the laptops are released 1st it ill go to private service centers near by :P as ELCOT TVs went :D there those guys will reformat it and they ill install the pirated copy of XP or WIN7 and make money from that

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Anoop John
I think it would definitely be beneficial to have the meetings with ELCOT Director and IT Secretary. It would also be good to issue press releases to all major media channels - print+visual. In Kerala for similar government level decisions what we (FSUG-Tvm) have done in the past have been to

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread openbala
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: Friends. Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition with Anti Virus for 1 year license and Linux. For what its worth, you can't even install visual studio 2010 express edition (which is

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: no - supplying company has to set up a service center in each district. The law may make the Service Center to be set up, but does everyone go to it? (Why travel 1hr when my next house friend can do it?) I never

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread balachandar muruganantham
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Operating System : Preloaded Dual booting - Windows starter edition with Anti Virus for 1 year license and Linux. If the windows costs min 1000 INR, 9,00,000 * 1,000 = 90,00,00,000 90 Cr rupees will be given

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 12:53 +0100, balachandar muruganantham wrote: If we use Gnu/Linux, we can save the 90Cr. may be... how much do you think redhat/canonical/novell will charge for linux? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Vivek Rajagopalan
Think of playing Games in Linux. I bet thats the first thing most school children would do. So I think we are just pushing the expenditure away from govt and towards the children making the money to flow away from single Co to local service centers and such. What are the rules here ? Can the

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 17:40 +0530, Vivek Rajagopalan wrote: One idea is to hardware lock (say via a custom BIOS ??) the system into a single supported distro of Linux. They would have to carry the unit to a service centre to unlock it and install anything else - at which point they have

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Raman.P
--- On Mon, 20/6/11, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: how much do you think redhat/canonical/novell will charge for linux? -- In case of Govt of India Purchase under DGS D rate contract pre-installed linux systems costs Rs.5860 less than equivalent Windows PC. This is for

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 18:07 +0530, Raman.P wrote: --- On Mon, 20/6/11, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: how much do you think redhat/canonical/novell will charge for linux? -- In case of Govt of India Purchase under DGS D rate contract pre-installed linux systems

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Vivek Rajagopalan vi...@unleashnetworks.com wrote: Think of playing Games in Linux. I bet thats the first thing most school children would do. So I think we are just pushing the expenditure away from govt and towards the children making the money to flow

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Vivek Rajagopalan
If such a thing happens, you will end up making a political mistake of giving Useless systems to school children and cheating people. The opposition would argue that why can't government give good systems by spending just extra 1K for a 20-30K product and instead cheat people in giving

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Anoop John
What I meant here is: Nobody (children) would dream of playing games in a Linux system and would surely try to get their systems Game Compatible (Windows). Anyways, even if the govt adopts Linux, Will the children who use it? The Government of Kerala had moved to GNU/Linux based IT curriculum

Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS

2011-06-20 Thread Raman.P
--- On Mon, 20/6/11, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: 5860 less than windows? or costs Rs 5860/-? In the Rate Contract the price is for hardware+Windows os+Anti-Virus - bundle. Separate option is given where pre-loaded Linux can be ordered instead of Windows. If this option is