Received an email a bit ago that states SmarterMail 4 will incorporate
SpamAssassin out of the box.
Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Servei Tècnic [
MICROTECH ]
Sent: Friday, De
Yes, I entirely agree.
However, clients don't see the technical side of things and a delay
of 10-15 mins is a disaster to some.
with postgrey/postfix:
the reject/delay happens once per triplet. A retried triplet gets
cached for 30 days (or as long as you set the cache parameter), so as
l
Yes, I entirely agree.
However, clients don't see the technical side of things and a delay of 10-15
mins is a disaster to some. We have lost clients because of this 'small' delay
who see email as an instant communication medium. Perhaps our arguments weren't
effective enough but then that's a m
Hello,
I run iMail 8.22 and have a client that would like to see if I can do
Employe Monitoring for non- business related email communication.
Maybe something with reports like this software:
http://www.ipswitch.com/company/press_releases/060426_waterford.asp
Has anyone had any success addin
However do be aware of the pitfalls of greylisting
When greylisting is done well (like postgrey or SQLgrey for postfix),
it's extremely painless, effectively invisible after the first day or two.
And it's incredibly effective.
For one of my high-volume clients who is implementing greylisti
Don't forget there are other options to ASSP, I can see it's advantages -
OpenSource and community based etc. but do consider other options such as
VamSoft's ORF which runs under IIS. If your an MS bod then using the very
stable IIS SMTP service does make sense and the pricing of VamSoft ORF is
I'm biased for 2 boxes, but I think to expect a one-box Imail solution
with 3rd party add-ons doing full anti-spam and content-scanning, esp if
ALL msgs are completely acceptd (DATA command) before reject is done to
hanlde 750K/day of anything is asking for trouble.
If that single box can hand
we only deliver about 64000 of the 75 or so a day inbound.
90+ as spam, fairly typical.
With an IMGate you block 70+% of that as long-hanging fruit with only
3 explicit filters:
1. bad recips
2. greylisting
3. SAV
... plus the standard sender_domain_not_found, illegal SMTP command
Mike and Ernesto,
As an ASSP newbie who is possibly a little farther along the setup
experience, I'd be happy to share some tips and forward some relevant mail
from the ASSP list I've stores over the last month.
Contact me off list
Bill Green
dfn Systems
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Sorry I was vague in my post. Since they were discussing ASSP I was
enquiring about the hardware requirements for those volumes for an ASSP.
I am currently in the ASSP forums on Sourceforge looking to see if I can
answer my own question. For those wondering about Imail. We currently
run a Dual 2.8
Better move this question to teh ASSP Mailing list.
I'm not sure.. as was discussed earlier today, it would appear this and
other solutions like Len's IMgate are the only way one can continue to use
Imail without tearing one's hair out, in my opinion.
Many Imail users are using an older versio
I realize this thread is off OT for Imail, but I was wondering how much
hardware it would take to handle 750,000 emails
750K legit msgs accepted, or 750K total msgs with 90+% rejected?
and 5000 mailboxes a day?
number of mailboxes is irrelevant. The number of msgs dominates,
followed by d
Hello Art,
This is worth taking a look at - provides some rough guidelines.
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20060728-JH03.htm
Bye for now,
kg
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 13:47
To: Imail_
At 08:16 PM 15/12/2006 +0100, you wrote:
>Better move this question to teh ASSP Mailing list.
I'm not sure.. as was discussed earlier today, it would appear this and
other solutions like Len's IMgate are the only way one can continue to use
Imail without tearing one's hair out, in my opinion.
Any
Better move this question to teh ASSP Mailing list.
In Short:
Change Imail listen Port to 125 (see ipswitch knowledge
base)
Change ASSP to listen on port 25 and forward to
127.0.0.1:125
Mail in:
ASSP(25)->Imail(125)
Mail Out:
Client->ASSP(25) (or second port for SMTP-Auth)->Client->Imail(125) ->
it's in the docs.
http://assp.sourceforge.net/fom/cache/11.html
no need to import users. its a proxy, all the traffic flows thru it to your
original setup.
At 01:02 PM 15/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm trying to install on the same box as my Imail. I already have it
>installed, was pretty easy
I'm trying to install on the same box as my Imail. I already have it
installed, was pretty easy using that quick start guide in the previous
post. Now I'm stuck as there is no documentation that I could find saying
what ports, if any, should I change since both Imail and ASSP would be on
the same
What are the advantages of installing on same box?
I planned to install on a separate one, that way if things don't work out, I
can remove it & leave my mail server intact.
I have an extra box I can install it on...
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Good question... all i can say is my 1 GHz has an average of 6% cpu usage
over the time ASSP has been running.
At 01:46 PM 15/12/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>I realize this thread is off OT for Imail, but I was wondering how much
>hardware it would take to handle 750,000 emails and 5000 mailboxes a
>da
I realize this thread is off OT for Imail, but I was wondering how much
hardware it would take to handle 750,000 emails and 5000 mailboxes a
day?
TIA,
Art Plato
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006
I'm running it on a 1 GHz dell with 512MB, WIn2K Pro ( not server) handling
about 5K messages/day ( this has dropped from when I started this whole
project, I suspect lots of spammers aren't even trying anymore, but I can't
prove it). I'm using a separate box from my Imail box, but thats only
becau
You cant restart quemanager when this happens, you need to kill the
process first then start.
Tripp Allen wrote:
Yes we handle exceptions, that's why you'll see a ERR 005 (or some
other number) in the log. That comes from the exception handler. It
also reports a step count which helps us d
Travis Rabe wrote:
Sure..and then should they support any third party free utility to do
AntiSpam? Because I got a WHOLE lot of free Linux ones that I would like to
add into that mix. I think that seems pretty unrealistic. ASSP would need
to partner with Ipswitch and do what any partnershi
Just install ASSP on the same box as Imail
Switch on all ASSP Test-Modes and you.
Follow the quickstart Guide
http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Quick_Start_for_Win32
on the ASSP wiki.
There are scripts for Imail to automatically extract
Domains&Users for use with ASSP.
Read the original dokumentation
Assp runs in any os that supports perl.
Requeriments and setting up, visit http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki
My assp is running in a P4-2400, 1GB RAM, 2x320 SATA (Raid 1), W2K3 R2.
IMail runs in the same box (48 domains * up to 30 accounts), 12k msgs/day
sign in https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/l
Out of personal experience, I would go with IMGate and ask Len for
assistance. It is not free for him to help you, but he has helped us
save allot of money as our Barracuda 400 was not able to handle our
email load and the IMGate cut the load by over 400%! Now the Barracuda
does not have any issu
Has anyone done this?
If so, how is it working & any advice for a newbie on setting one up?
I have a choice of setting it up on a box that has dual 700Mhz CPUs & 1G of
RAM or an Athelon 1500 with 512MB of ram.
Can this run on W2k Pro or does it have to be Win2k Server?
If it catches good mail, is t
You're right, not easy, not realistic.
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Enviado el: viernes, 15 de diciembre de 2006 18:01
Para: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Asunto: RE: [IMail Forum] Quemanager hanging again
Sure..and then sh
I would say that assp is pretty high on the list of software that actually
works well but I see your point.
Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644
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Sure..and then should they support any third party free utility to do
AntiSpam? Because I got a WHOLE lot of free Linux ones that I would like to
add into that mix. I think that seems pretty unrealistic. ASSP would need
to partner with Ipswitch and do what any partnership would
fees/contract
Seems to me that ipswitch would be smart to support an assp hook to retain
customers.
Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644
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Yes we handle exceptions, that's why you'll see a ERR 005 (or some other
number) in the log. That comes from the exception handler. It also
reports a step count which helps us determine the general vicinity of the
error. When an exception happens (and since an exception can mess up
internal st
Just my experience... don't care how emabarrasing is for IpSwitch team.
I'm srry for them, but a free-open-source-3rd-party software mantains my
$USD application alive.
If assp wasn't installed, we had moved to other software. We found assp
looking for mail servers :o
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Thank you for the suggestion but it must be so embarrassing for Ipswitch
to read it.
Customers required to run 3rd party applications to make Imail stable.
Servei Tècnic [ MICROTECH ] wrote:
yes, install 3rd party such as assp http://www.asspsmtp.org
We had the same problem. Our queue hangs u
Its not one message its several, it has happened several times.
Do a search on this list and search your internal documents and you will
see that this is an ongoing problem.
I dont want waste my time digging up logs snippets for you, sorry that I
sound like an asshole but I am tired of this bu
yes, install 3rd party such as assp http://www.asspsmtp.org
We had the same problem. Our queue hangs up to ten times per day.
we had a script running every 30 minutes to check if queue was running or
stop pending, killing task and starting service again.
the problem went away after installing ASSP,
Sorry but the latest version has a pretty serious security issue that is
totally against common IIS policies.
The latest version also is not compatible with Safari..
I cant tell me clients that the we paid for upgrade so they can have
less features.
All this aside
I would expect, actually
Also, you can't complain too much if you're not using the current version.
You can't have bluethooth in your car unless it came with it or you buy a
new one. Same logic.
Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644
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Imail antispam is weak because the idea is to buy the more expensive imail
secure. I've lobbied for quite some time that imail is too expensive and at
the renewal fees now being charged should include the antispam. That being
said the 3rd party solutions offer arguably better solutions anyway.
Bil
Do you have a copy of this message that causing the Queue manager to stop?
Could I see it and the log for when it crashes?
Tripp
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:00 AM
To: Imail_Forum@list
I am not sure about the point in your email.
I was obviously extolling the virtues of common milk chocolate as a social
lubricant in a mixed environment workplace. Duh. :o) (just kidding)
I did not see any suggestion on how to correct this problem or your own
personal experience.
I read yo
Matti Haack wrote:
HE> Are you telling us that we need to install a 3rd party application to
HE> make Imail run stable?
I think beside the small bugs in Imail, there are lot of essential
parts missing (or very basic) which have to be added by third Party products
(Mail-Flow monitoring, Anti-Spam,
HE> Are you telling us that we need to install a 3rd party application to
HE> make Imail run stable?
I think beside the small bugs in Imail, there are lot of essential
parts missing (or very basic) which have to be added by third Party products
(Mail-Flow monitoring, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, Penalt
Doug Traylor wrote:
Quemanager goes into "stopping" mode but will never stop.
You have to kill the process and restart it for it to work.
How about fixing this problem once for all.
I have a similar problem with 8.22 and a certain mail which kills
SMTPd32 -
Only the first line of the he
Try the free ASSP in fornt of Imail
Matti
GS> Good Morning -
GS> what would be the best way to stop this Spam? I have 2 received by
GS> catalystems.com. Do I block dawid-gf6avquem [83.23.220.156] or
GS> 206.131.249.132 (HELO mail.wrightson.com)?
GS> Thanks,
GS> Message Header
Quemanager goes into "stopping" mode but will never stop.
You have to kill the process and restart it for it to work.
How about fixing this problem once for all.
I have a similar problem with 8.22 and a certain mail which kills
SMTPd32 -
Only the first line of the header gets stuck in th
Good Morning -
what would be the best way to stop this Spam? I have 2 received by
catalystems.com. Do I block dawid-gf6avquem [83.23.220.156] or
206.131.249.132 (HELO mail.wrightson.com)?
Thanks,
Message Header ***
Received: from dawid-gf6avquem [83.23.220.156] by mail.cataly
I have a similar problem with 8.22 and a certain mail which kills SMTPd32 -
unfortunatly, as it could not be delivered, I can not analyze it.
Only the first line of the header gets stuck in the SPOOl directoy,
when the service dies. Now I use ASSP to block it on the Adres, I
found i
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