Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread Darren Kenny
John, Why not GNOME as the default, its one of the most popular desktops, and is the default on many of the major Linux distros (and Solaris)? Ubuntu have GNOME, but they also have Kubuntu, which is the same base OS with KDE as the default - there is no reason that once Indiana is out there that

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread Manoj Joseph
Darren Kenny wrote: > Ubuntu have GNOME, but they also have Kubuntu, which is the same base OS with > KDE as the default - there is no reason that once Indiana is out there that > you > couldn't manage a minor fork, using KDE as the main desktop instead of GNOME > - I > feel that people tend to g

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread S h i v
On 7/19/07, Darren Kenny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John, > > Why not GNOME as the default, its one of the most popular desktops, and is the > default on many of the major Linux distros (and Solaris)? > > Ubuntu have GNOME, but they also have Kubuntu, which is the same base OS with > KDE as the d

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread Doug Scott
Manoj Joseph wrote: > Darren Kenny wrote: > >> Ubuntu have GNOME, but they also have Kubuntu, which is the same base OS with >> KDE as the default - there is no reason that once Indiana is out there that >> you >> couldn't manage a minor fork, using KDE as the main desktop instead of GNOME >>

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread John Sonnenschein
On 19-Jul-07, at 8:57 AM, Doug Scott wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Darren Kenny wrote: Ubuntu have GNOME, but they also have Kubuntu, which is the same base OS with KDE as the default - there is no reason that once Indiana is out there that you couldn't manage a minor fork, using KDE as the

[indiana-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Stephen Hahn
Danek and I have been poking around at packaging the last little while; I've written down many of the issues we're juggling in a blog post: http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/observations_on_packaging There's more to write, of course, and I hope to get the rest of my notes out in s

Re: [indiana-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Roland Mainz
Stephen Hahn wrote: > >Danek and I have been poking around at packaging the last little >while; I've written down many of the issues we're juggling in a blog >post: > >http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/observations_on_packaging AFAIK one item is missing: - The packaging system shoul

Re: [indiana-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Tim Bray
On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Stephen Hahn wrote: > >Danek and I have been poking around at packaging the last little >while; I've written down many of the issues we're juggling in a > blog >post: > >http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/observations_on_packaging Good stuff! We going t

Re: [indiana-discuss] [install-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughtson packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Roland Mainz
Danek Duvall wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:39:11PM +0200, Roland Mainz wrote: > > AFAIK one item is missing: > > - The packaging system should work with diskless and/or networked > > clients, e.g. clients which get all filesystems (even the root > > filesystem) via NFS or AFS/DFS (this featur

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread Doug Scott
John Sonnenschein wrote: > >>> If you package Gnome with Indiana, the vast majority will just go with >>> it, IMHO. >>> >> >> If it suits their needs then really what is the problem. > > And if Linux suits their needs, why are we bothering trying to attract > them at all? Does it? > >>> I person

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread John Sonnenschein
On 19-Jul-07, at 4:35 PM, Doug Scott wrote: Also I think one thing that people forget is, if Indiana comes with applications like Firefox, OpenOffice etc, then half on Gnome will need to be included anyway. If that's a large concern for you, KOffice is smaller than OpenOffice ( and base

Re: [indiana-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-19 15:19]: > On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Stephen Hahn wrote: > > > > > Danek and I have been poking around at packaging the last little > > while; I've written down many of the issues we're juggling in a > >blog > > post: > > > > http://blogs.sun.

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread Doug Scott
John Sonnenschein wrote: > > On 19-Jul-07, at 4:35 PM, Doug Scott wrote: > Also I think one thing that people forget is, if Indiana comes with applications like Firefox, OpenOffice etc, then half on Gnome will need to be included anyway. >>> >>> If that's a large concern f

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread Dennis Clarke
> > On 19-Jul-07, at 4:35 PM, Doug Scott wrote: > Also I think one thing that people forget is, if Indiana comes with applications like Firefox, OpenOffice etc, then half on Gnome will need to be included anyway. >>> >>> If that's a large concern for you, KOffice is smalle

Re: [indiana-discuss] [install-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Joel Buckley
> Stephen Hahn wrote: > > > >Danek and I have been poking around at packaging the last little > >while; I've written down many of the issues we're juggling in a blog > >post: > > > >http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/observations_on_packaging Could you also include features presented

Re: [indiana-discuss] [install-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Danek Duvall
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:39:11PM +0200, Roland Mainz wrote: > AFAIK one item is missing: > - The packaging system should work with diskless and/or networked > clients, e.g. clients which get all filesystems (even the root > filesystem) via NFS or AFS/DFS (this feature is very important for > uni

Re: [indiana-discuss] [install-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread Danek Duvall
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 04:15:37PM -0600, Joel Buckley wrote: > Could you also include features presented in Solaris Package Companion, > "http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/svr4_packaging/package_companion/";, > onto the mix. > > Specifically, having Cluster <-> MetaCluster <-> Package relati

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana Wish List

2007-07-19 Thread elw
>> I'm getting pretty goddamn sick of condescending comments like this. >> I'm fully aware that I can fork OpenSolaris and do whatever I like with >> it. In much the same way that if Indiana goes the KDE route, / YOU/ can >> bugger off and start your own GIndiana. > > I do not want to see these

Re: [indiana-discuss] Brief (blogged) thoughts on packaging

2007-07-19 Thread MC
One question I'd answer early is whether or not ZFS is going to be a requirement for future Solaris systems or not. Because realistically, if it isn't assumed to always be there, it probably won't be taken full advantage of. If it IS asssumed to be there, people will be more prone to go ahead a

Re: [indiana-discuss] indiana-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 54

2007-07-19 Thread Smith, Nate
ing that people forget is, if Indiana > comes with > >>> applications like Firefox, OpenOffice etc, then half on Gnome > >>> will need > >>> to be included anyway. > >> > >> If that's a large concern for you, KOffice is smaller than