Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-03 Thread Christos Soulios
Quoting Rob Siemborski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Christos Soulios wrote: Rob Siemborski wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Paul Boven wrote: The only argument I currently completely understand for an IP-only based setup is that of sites that need to distinguish ANONYMOUS

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-03 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Christos Soulios wrote: You can do that in a model that still allows users to add an @ sign and a domain to their userid. I cannot figure out how this can be achieved. And to make it clear, I will give an example. I have two domains domain1.com and domain2.com which

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-03 Thread Ken Murchison
Christos Soulios wrote: Quoting Rob Siemborski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Christos Soulios wrote: Rob Siemborski wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Paul Boven wrote: The only argument I currently completely understand for an IP-only based setup is that of sites that need to distinguish

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Christos Soulios
Ken Murchison wrote: Christos Soulios wrote: If the domain passed in the fully qualified userid matches the domain selected from the ipaddress, then cyrus, proceeds to authenticate user using sasl. If it is different, then authentication fails without even making a query to the authentication

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Paul Boven
Hi Christos, everyone, Christos Soulios wrote: Security is one thing. More than this, my opinion is that in order cyrus to be deployed in a true multi domain environment, and thus actually be used by ISPs, admins must be able to distribute the virtual domains according to the name of the

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Christos Soulios
Paul Boven wrote: Hi Christos, everyone, Security is a very important thing. And security to me means encryption, not only of the authentication phase but of the whole session. Now with HTTPS I know you loose the ability to support virtual domains, because the TLS session must be setup

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Paul Boven wrote: Security is a very important thing. And security to me means encryption, not only of the authentication phase but of the whole session. Now with HTTPS I know you loose the ability to support virtual domains, because the TLS session must be setup before

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Christos Soulios
Rob Siemborski wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Paul Boven wrote: The only argument I currently completely understand for an IP-only based setup is that of sites that need to distinguish ANONYMOUS users between domains (and prehaps that is good enough). What about being able to determine the virtual

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Christos Soulios wrote: Rob Siemborski wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Paul Boven wrote: The only argument I currently completely understand for an IP-only based setup is that of sites that need to distinguish ANONYMOUS users between domains (and prehaps that is good

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Jure Pear
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:09:47 +0100 Christian Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are loginrealms handled if virtdomain-support gets enabled when it was in use before without virtdomains ? I forgot a bit about loginrealms ... they make sense to me in a setup where mail system is set up for

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Jure Pear
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:09:43 -0500 (EST) Rob Siemborski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way to get a win out of a model that disallows that feature is to come up with something where it actively causes problems. Yes, and this requires active knowledge of cyrus sasl code. I think you guys

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-02 Thread Kendrick Vargas
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Paul Boven wrote: Christos Soulios wrote: Security is one thing. More than this, my opinion is that in order cyrus to be deployed in a true multi domain environment, and thus actually be used by ISPs, admins must be able to distribute the virtual domains

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-01 Thread Christos Soulios
Quoting Ken Murchison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But authentication should fail in this case, unless the user's in two different domains have the same userid and password. Actually, I think that it is more efficient if cyrus-imap did all the virtual domains handling, without the assistance of any

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-01 Thread Ken Murchison
Jure Pear wrote: virtdomains=ipaddr (or something) here we need to teach server the ip-domain mapping. reverse dns? most likely. server accepts authenticates usernames without @domain on appropriate interfaces (ip adresses) and it searches for username only in the domain the ip adress the user

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2004-01-01 Thread Ken Murchison
Christos Soulios wrote: If the domain passed in the fully qualified userid matches the domain selected from the ipaddress, then cyrus, proceeds to authenticate user using sasl. If it is different, then authentication fails without even making a query to the authentication mechanism. Can you

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-31 Thread Christian Schulte
Am Mittwoch, 31. Dezember 2003 02:47 schrieb Jure Pear: On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:33:37 -0500 Ken Murchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its not a problem to implement it. I'd like to get some more discussion on how the two methods can/should interact. Let me share my point of view:

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-31 Thread Joe Rhett
I just committed some code to CVS which changes the virtdomains option from a SWITCH to an ENUM having 3 options: off/no/0/false/f (disabled) userid(fully qualified userids only) on/yes/1/true/t (current behavior) What this means (hopefully) is

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-30 Thread Christos Soulios
This means that there is no choice for an administrator who might want to distribute users to the domains _only_ according to the IP address of the server that users connect to? I would not like my users to have the ability to choose a domain only by appending a @domain to their userid. Are

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-30 Thread Igor Brezac
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Christos Soulios wrote: This means that there is no choice for an administrator who might want to distribute users to the domains _only_ according to the IP address of the server that users connect to? I would not like my users to have the ability to choose a domain

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-30 Thread Jure Pear
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:33:37 -0500 Ken Murchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its not a problem to implement it. I'd like to get some more discussion on how the two methods can/should interact. Let me share my point of view: virtdomains=off: server accepts authenticates usernames without

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-29 Thread Ken Murchison
Ken Murchison wrote: Kendrick Vargas wrote: Hi folks, I asked earlier how I could get users within the primary (default) domain hashed into the domain/ subdirectories of the imap spool instead of being right at the toplevel without any real domain association. I was told that the

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-29 Thread Kendrick Vargas
Sweeet, but I think i'll wait till the next full release to test it, since the target system is sorta production. Thanks :-) -peace On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Ken Murchison wrote: Ken Murchison wrote: Kendrick Vargas wrote: Hi folks, I asked earlier how I could

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-29 Thread Igor Brezac
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Ken Murchison wrote: Ken Murchison wrote: Kendrick Vargas wrote: Hi folks, I asked earlier how I could get users within the primary (default) domain hashed into the domain/ subdirectories of the imap spool instead of being right at the toplevel without any

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-29 Thread Ken Murchison
Igor Brezac wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Ken Murchison wrote: Ken Murchison wrote: Kendrick Vargas wrote: Hi folks, I asked earlier how I could get users within the primary (default) domain hashed into the domain/ subdirectories of the imap spool instead of being right at the toplevel

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-28 Thread Christos Soulios
Hi list. It would be very helpful if I could choose _only_ one from these options. You see, with current code for virtual domains, I faced the following frustrating situation. Provided that I have set up two domains foo.com and bar.com in my dns server and that I have given 2 IP addresses to

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-28 Thread Oliver Jones
I vote for the config option. I'm always in favour of less hard coded behaviour and more configuration options (with sane defaults). :) Regards On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 00:40, Christos Soulios wrote: Hi list. It would be very helpful if I could choose _only_ one from these options. You see,

[POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-26 Thread Ken Murchison
Kendrick Vargas wrote: Hi folks, I asked earlier how I could get users within the primary (default) domain hashed into the domain/ subdirectories of the imap spool instead of being right at the toplevel without any real domain association. I was told that the defaultdomain option was meant to

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-26 Thread Igor Brezac
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Ken Murchison wrote: Kendrick Vargas wrote: Hi folks, I asked earlier how I could get users within the primary (default) domain hashed into the domain/ subdirectories of the imap spool instead of being right at the toplevel without any real domain association. I

Re: [POLL] Cyrus 2.2 virtdomains behavior (Was: global admin without defaultdomain?)

2003-12-26 Thread Kendrick Vargas
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Ken Murchison wrote: Kendrick Vargas wrote: Hi folks, I asked earlier how I could get users within the primary (default) domain hashed into the domain/ subdirectories of the imap spool instead of being right at the toplevel without any real domain association. I