performance question

2003-07-24 Thread Steven Pokrandt
How many mailboxes could one expect on a system with the following specs Receiving messages via LMTP and only supporting pop for retrieving email. front-end systems would be running exim, proxypop3d, apache and DNS back-end systems would only have cyrus. There would be a third system to provide ev

Performance question...

2004-02-24 Thread Michael J Barber
Folks I need a bit of feedback and insight. A co-worker of mine is implementing an IMAP server here and has decided to ditch Cyrus after he thought it was too slow and could not configure it. That being said, I don't want to address the configuration issue. I am interested in the speed or perfor

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-24 Thread Mike Brodbelt
Michael J Barber wrote: > Folks I need a bit of feedback and insight. > > A co-worker of mine is implementing an IMAP server here and has decided to ditch > Cyrus after he thought it was too slow and could not configure it. That being > said, I don't want to address the configuration issue. I am

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-24 Thread Michael J Barber
This rings a bell. His test system is a Pentium 200 with less than 10 users and just auto generated test messages. The mail boxes were growing to 20-30MB...at least with the Courier setup. Any other info would be great and thanks for the note. BTW the eventual production system is a dual Xeon 3

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-24 Thread Mike Brodbelt
Michael J Barber wrote: > This rings a bell. > > His test system is a Pentium 200 with less than 10 users and just auto generated > test messages. The mail boxes were growing to 20-30MB...at least with the > Courier setup. > > Any other info would be great and thanks for the note. > > BTW the e

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-24 Thread Paul M Fleming
Deliver 4-5k messages to a single mailbox and then delete message 10,100,1000 etc. Do that for 1000 users at the same time.. Then Cyrus really starts to perform! Mike Brodbelt wrote: > > Michael J Barber wrote: > > This rings a bell. > > > > His test system is a Pentium 200 with less than 10 use

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Michael J Barber wrote: > Cyrus after he thought it was too slow and could not configure it. That being Hah, I bet he had Cyrus on a partition (or directories) operating in sync mode :) (I assume he had a 2.x Cyrus install). > Has anyone done similar things and noticed one

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Michael J Barber wrote: > His test system is a Pentium 200 with less than 10 users and just auto generated > test messages. The mail boxes were growing to 20-30MB...at least with the > Courier setup. Oh. Yeah, that is a scenario where Courier might just be faster than Cyrus.

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Etienne Goyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > 3. A proper filesystem (ext2 and ext3 in default non-btree mode, aren't. > I doubt UFS is any better). I hear that often but don't give it much credence. We use ext3 in a Murder with 70K accounts and two backen

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Etienne Goyer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > 3. A proper filesystem (ext2 and ext3 in default non-btree mode, aren't. > > I doubt UFS is any better). > > I hear that often but don't give it much credence. We us

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Cesar Lagarrigue
OTECTED] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25-02-2004 00:11 To Michael J Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: Performance question... On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Michael J Barber wrote: > Cyrus after he thought it was too

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Michael J Farina
sizes too big. I switched to DIGEST-MD5 and this problem stopped. Any info you can give me would be great. - Original Message - From: "Etienne Goyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Performance

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Etienne Goyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:59:01PM -0400, Cesar Lagarrigue wrote: > > 1. noatime > how configure this ? In /etc/fstab, specify the "noatime" option for the partition on which your mailspool reside. > > 2. no "sync mounts" or "sync attributes" anywhere. Use a proper fs > >instead. > i use

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Michael J Barber
^^ ^^ how configure this ? is in the imapd.conf ? ^^ ^^ p.d: :) thanks for any helps. ^^ ^^ Regards, ^^ ^^ Is you need send any conf please tell me. ^^ ^^ ^^ Cesar Lagarrigue V. ^^ Project Engineer ^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Etienne Goyer wrote: > > > 4. A properly configured Berkeley DB environment (although for some > > > reason, Cyrus seems to actually survive well without any config, > > > maybe the CMU crew override the defaults with something sane in > > > the bdb backend code

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Etienne Goyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:22:48PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Etienne Goyer wrote: > > > > 4. A properly configured Berkeley DB environment (although for some > > > > reason, Cyrus seems to actually survive well without any config, > > > > maybe the

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Phil Brutsche
Etienne Goyer wrote: First, you need DB4.2 if you have anything SMP or multithreaded :) Ok, this is getting interesting. Are there known with db3 on SMP system? We use the stock db3 rpm from RedHat 7.3 (3.3.11) on an SMP machine, and we seem to have database corruption problem on mailboxes.db.

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > First, you need DB4.2 if you have anything SMP or multithreaded :) Ummm, we've successfully used Berkeley DB on SMP systems since DB3... Is there a reference to what problems this causes anywhere? -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Etienne Goyer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:22:48PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Etienne Goyer wrote: > > > > > 4. A properly configured Berkeley DB environment (although for some > > > > > reason, Cyrus seems to actually survi

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Rob Siemborski wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > First, you need DB4.2 if you have anything SMP or multithreaded :) > > Ummm, we've successfully used Berkeley DB on SMP systems since DB3... Is > there a reference to what problems this causes

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Simon Brady
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > db 3.2 is safe. I don't know about 3.3. 4.0 and 4.1 are a NO GO for SMP. Is this all Linux SMP installations, or just those using NPTL? -- Simon Brady mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ITS Technical Services University

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
-- Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 25. Februar 2004 17:39 Uhr -0300 regarding Re: Performance question...: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Rob Siemborski wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > First, you need DB4

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-25 Thread Cesar Lagarrigue
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Re: Performance question...

2004-02-26 Thread Cesar Lagarrigue
PROTECTED] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25-02-2004 15:22 To Etienne Goyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: Performance question... On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Etienne Goyer wrote: > > > 4. A properly con

Re: Performance question...

2004-02-26 Thread Ken Murchison
Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: -- Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 25. Februar 2004 17:39 Uhr -0300 regarding Re: Performance question...: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Rob Siemborski wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-09 Thread Andy Hubbell, Jr.
Greetings, Ok, time for another question... We are running a mail system (ISP) with just a bit over 4000 mailboxes at present... Our exact configuration is as follows: RedHat Linux 7.0 + patches, postfix snapshot 20010204 (MTA), and cyrus-imapd 2.0.11 system is a dual PIII 800 with 512mb r

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-10 Thread Christopher Audley
f hurt in a week or two :-) Let me know how it goes, I'm anxious to find out. Cheers Chris - Original Message - From: "Andy Hubbell, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:33 PM Subject: Performance Question cyrus-i

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-10 Thread Amos Gouaux
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:57:35 -0500, > Christopher Audley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (ca) writes: ca> The LMTP update for postfix is found on the download page at www.postfix.org ca> under "Unofficial patches". I don't know how well it works. Alternately, Oh my, this is way out of date. Sim

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-10 Thread Andy Hubbell, Jr.
world of hurt in a week or two :-) Let me know how it >goes, I'm anxious to find out. > >Cheers >Chris > >- Original Message - >From: "Andy Hubbell, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-10 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 12:57:35PM -0500, Christopher Audley wrote: > The LMTP update for postfix is found on the download page at www.postfix.org > under "Unofficial patches". I don't know how well it works. We are using snapshot 2000-12-17 which has LMTP support and had no problems so far. G

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-10 Thread patl
> The LMTP update for postfix is found on the download page at > www.postfix.org under "Unofficial patches". I don't know how well it > works. Alternately, if you want to go with production versions of software, > sendmail has native support for LMTP in the recent releases. You could move > the

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-10 Thread patl
On 10-Feb-01 at 14:07, Andy Hubbell, Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Christopher, > > Sorry to inform you, but since I am using a very recent snapshot of postfix > it does support lmtp "out of the box" as it were. And as I stated in my > email, I am using lmtp directly via the socket interface.

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread Amos Gouaux
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:54:40 -0500, > Andy Hubbell, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (ah) writes: ah> Christopher, ah> Sorry to inform you, but since I am using a very recent snapshot ah> of postfix it does support lmtp "out of the box" as it were. ah> And as I stated in my email, I am using lmtp di

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread Andy Hubbell, Jr.
Amos, Aha! The vital piece that I was missing! ;) I had set local_transport and mailbox_transport and even fallback_transport in my attempts to get this straight... So I'm assuming for my local domains I need to just put the entry in a transport map for my local domains and it will use the

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread Andy Hubbell, Jr.
Pat, I'm not seeing any evidence that postfix is batching up the local deliveries through a single lmtp instance... I've made some changed recommended by others using postfix, but still don't see evidence of this happening... Not sure if its my postfix config or my cyrus config that's causi

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread patl
On 11-Feb-01 at 11:39, Andy Hubbell, Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm not seeing any evidence that postfix is batching up the local > deliveries through a single lmtp instance... I've made some changed > recommended by others using postfix, but still don't see evidence of this > happening.

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread Amos Gouaux
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:44:32 -0500, > Andy Hubbell, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (ah) writes: ah> Should the master process exec a new lmtpd for each delivery? This ah> would seem somewhat wasteful, especially on a busy system with lots ah> of disk IO... Nothing else is talking lmtp to this se

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread Bruno Riedl
ions are not too likely to come in near future -- Bruno - Original Message - From: Amos Gouaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11 > >>>>> On Sat, 10 F

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread patl
Another thing I forgot to mention - you might try linking lmtpd static to reduce per-instance startup costs. (This may not be an issue if setting prefork non-zero causes the lmtp daemon to fork for each instance instead of the master forking and then execing lmtpd.) -Pat

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread patl
On 11-Feb-01 at 15:23, Bruno Riedl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > You will run into new problems using a transport map for local lmtp > delivery. From my understanding, Postfix only evaluates aliases when > doing local delivery. A transport map is no such thing, so You won't > have Your aliases ex

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-11 Thread Amos Gouaux
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:45:46 +0100, > Bruno Riedl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (br) writes: br> From my understanding, Postfix only evaluates aliases when doing local br> delivery. br> A transport map is no such thing, so You won't have Your aliases expanded. All you have to do is use a virtual

Re: Performance Question cyrus-imapd 2.0.11

2001-02-12 Thread Amos Gouaux
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:58:04 -0800 (PST), > patl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (p) writes: p> If this is true, you might want to look into replacing postfix with p> exim. Exim is very easy to configure to handle this sort of thing. For us it hasn't really been a problem. We seem to be somewha