I made some progress.
My original problem was that Emacs or one of the components which
intervene *locally* generate and introduce the Message-ID no matter the
value of message-required-mail-headers.
When message-required-mail-headers excludes Message-ID and
message-generate-headers-first is
You can set `message-generate-headers-first' to t and see what headers
Message produces when you start editing a message.
Good suggestion: I just tried. Now message-generate-headers-first is
true, and Message-ID doesn't appear in the
message-required-mail-headers. Result: my emails all have Me
Well, how else do you explain that when I remove Message-ID from
message-required-mail-headers and send my email, then the Message-ID
is given by the value of message-user-fqdn or when nil, by
system-name?
As I already said: My guess was that your sendmail program adds a
message-id.
But the
One advantage of your email program setting the Message-ID is that the
unique identifier of the email is then known by your email program.
Best regards,
Adam
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Dear Liman,
Am I right in understanding it as "my host doesn't know its own
hostname (identity), so it's unable to create a useful Message-ID"?
Not sure, because my original problem was that Emacs or one of the
components which intervene *locally* generate and introduce the
Message-ID no mat
On 12/11/23 11:01, Lars-Johan Liman wrote:
FWIW, I agree with Arash's sentiment. This, again, goes back to the
notion that a message without a Message-ID is (more or less) invalid.
Therefore any and all e-mail software (user agents and transport agents
alike) is disciplined to add a Message-ID to
FWIW, I agree with Arash's sentiment. This, again, goes back to the
notion that a message without a Message-ID is (more or less) invalid.
Therefore any and all e-mail software (user agents and transport agents
alike) is disciplined to add a Message-ID to any message without one, to
avoid transferri
rameik...@posteo.net writes:
> Well, how else do you explain that when I remove Message-ID from
> message-required-mail-headers and send my email, then the Message-ID
> is given by the value of message-user-fqdn or when nil, by
> system-name?
As I already said: My guess was that your sendmail pro
Hi rameiko87!
I know more about message standards then I know about the internals of
GNUS. That's why I come from that angle.
I'm beginning to understand your undelying problem, though, and I
realise it's a generic one that more people "ought to have". Am I right
in understanding it as "my host d
Not 100% relevant, and I have posted an earlier version
before, but I have fun with the following which completely
randomizes the Message ID and user agent for every email I
send from gnus. (Sometimes you actually want this; think
about it!) However some SMTP servers rudely go ahead and
substit
I'm not sure if Message is ignoring the value of
`message-required-mail-headers'.
Well, how else do you explain that when I remove Message-ID from
message-required-mail-headers and send my email, then the Message-ID is
given by the value of message-user-fqdn or when nil, by system-name?
My
rameik...@posteo.net writes:
> This is perfect! So I customized message-required-mail-headers. Now
> your explanation shows why I should not remove the mail headers, but
> still I wonder about the meaning of the lines cited above from the
> Gnus manual. And I also wonder what is the meaning of the
Dear Lars-Johan Liman,
Thank you very much for your kind and exhaustive reply. I read in the
Gnus manual:
If you have no idea what to insert for "yourmachine.yourdomain.tld",
you’ve got several choices. You can either ask your provider if he
allows you to use something like yourUserName.userf
Hi!
Message-ID is one of the very few _mandatory_ header lines, so a message
without one is not a valid RFC 5322 (the sucessor of RFC 822) message.
Therefore the message "must not/cannot" leave your computer without one.
It has to be set on the computer if it's being shipped by a mail-related
prot
Hello everyone! I'm on Emacs 29.1 and I use Message and sendmail for
writing emails. I don't load Gnus but I do the easy C-x m. I can't get
Emacs not to add Message-ID to my outgoing mail! I would be very
grateful if some of you could help me out a little, I'm kind of a
beginner. I set https://
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