Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-20 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Bill, 2012/1/20 William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net: On 1/19/2012 5:29 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: 2012/1/19 Ángel González keis...@gmail.com: Such binaries wouldn't be compatible with IIS, but mingw seems preferible to the legacy VC6 for use with the oficial Apache binaries. A couple of

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-19 Thread Pierre Joye
2012/1/19 Ángel González keis...@gmail.com: Actually, why couldn't mingw be supported one day? (supposing someone did the work to change half the PHP_WIN defines to PHP_MSVC) Too painful, somehow buggy (while it is way better lately) but the main reason is total lack of binary compatibility

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-19 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/19/2012 5:29 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: 2012/1/19 Ángel González keis...@gmail.com: Such binaries wouldn't be compatible with IIS, but mingw seems preferible to the legacy VC6 for use with the oficial Apache binaries. A couple of things to remember; msvcrt.dll is quite actively maintained,

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, Yes, there is a reason. We do not support x64 binaries yet, for php itself and many libs used by PHP. Some argues that it is safe. Btw, it is not faster to run on x64 either. php-next will have x64 support tho'. Cheers, On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:46 AM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: Yes, there is a reason. We do not support x64 binaries yet, for php itself and many libs used by PHP. Some argues that it is safe. Btw, it is not faster to run on x64 either. Pierre ... please do not continue that statement without any evidence. ALL of the benchmarks I've

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Pierre Joye
Lester, On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: Yes, there is a reason. We do not support x64 binaries yet, for php itself and many libs used by PHP. Some argues that it is safe. Btw, it is not faster to run on x64 either. Pierre ...

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: Lester, On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: Yes, there is a reason. We do not support x64 binaries yet, for php itself and many libs used by PHP. Some argues that it is safe. Btw, it is not faster to run on x64

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Anthony Ferrara
Perfect, thanks. And to be fair, I don't care about performance. I would like 64 bit integers... Anthony On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: hi, Yes, there is a reason. We do not support x64 binaries yet, for php itself and many libs used by PHP. Some

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/18/2012 6:13 AM, Lester Caine wrote: A much better reason for not supporting the build is probably that the 64bit compiler is not available in the free development stack? We have to buy a development stack to get the 64bit compiler which blocks rather than working with the publicly

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Lester Caine
William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/18/2012 6:13 AM, Lester Caine wrote: A much better reason for not supporting the build is probably that the 64bit compiler is not available in the free development stack? We have to buy a development stack to get the 64bit compiler which blocks rather

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/18/2012 12:14 PM, Lester Caine wrote: William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/18/2012 6:13 AM, Lester Caine wrote: A much better reason for not supporting the build is probably that the 64bit compiler is not available in the free development stack? We have to buy a development stack

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:37 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 1/18/2012 6:13 AM, Lester Caine wrote: A much better reason for not supporting the build is probably that the 64bit compiler is not available in the free development stack? We have to buy a development

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:25 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: The SDK and DDK remain free with a minimal toolchain, including 64 bit compilers.  Of course they aren't called that anymore, because things are only fun in the Windows world when they overhaul the glossary of

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Niel Archer
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:25 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: The SDK and DDK remain free with a minimal toolchain, including 64 bit compilers.  Of course they aren't called that anymore, because things are only fun in the Windows world when they overhaul the glossary

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Niel Archer spam-f...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:25 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: The SDK and DDK remain free with a minimal toolchain, including 64 bit compilers.  Of course they aren't called that anymore,

Re: [PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-18 Thread Ángel González
On 18/01/12 20:35, Pierre Joye wrote: Actually, no. There are any number of free mechanisms to build 64 bit code. None of them are part of what we support tho' (we do not support mingw for example, and won't support it). Actually, why couldn't mingw be supported one day? (supposing someone

[PHP-DEV] 64bit Windows builds

2012-01-17 Thread Anthony Ferrara
Hello all, I've noticed that on windows.php.net that all the builds are x86. I was wondering if there is any reason (technical or not) not to distribute x64 builds as well there. It's quite annoying having to constantly drop to a VM every time I need to test something that's 64 bit dependent...