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2003-08-20 Thread Alain Durand
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Re: IPv6 Link-Local Use Issue for Applications

2003-08-20 Thread Keith Moore
The solution that will work for now is make a statement in the IETF and in industry IPv6 implementation documentation that link-local addresses SHOULD not be used as an IPv6 address type by applications. Jim, this is simply pointless. I haven't gotten through all the mail yet so

Re: Fourth alternative [was Re: Moving forward ....]

2003-08-20 Thread Keith Moore
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:04:05 -0700 Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Nordmark wrote: ... FWIW, I think a multi6 solution with id/loc separation will make the local addressing concerns go away. Well a 'solution' might do that, but I don't see one happening in our lifetimes. Any

RE: IPv6 Link-Local Use Issue for Applications

2003-08-20 Thread Brian Zill
Jim, I'm not arguing that general-purpose apps should do anything special to support link-local addresses. For the most part, I doubt they'll ever see them, since link-local addresses won't be in the DNS. But then again, I don't think that most apps need to do anything to discourage their use

RE: IPv6 Link-Local Use Issue for Applications

2003-08-20 Thread Brian Zill
that's okay, you can't use ordinary apps with LL addresses (even on ad hoc networks) if the hosts on which those apps run have more than one active network interface. Huh? I do this all the time. I daresay a lot of other readers of this list do too. Could you clarify what you mean by

Moving the ipng mailing list

2003-08-20 Thread Bob Hinden Margaret Wasserman
Folks, After many years of service Sun Microsystems has indicated that they can no longer administer the ipng mailing list of the IPv6 working group. Consequentially, we will be moving the list in next two or three weeks. Sun will continue to manage the list through the transition. We first

Re: IPv6 Link-Local Use Issue for Applications

2003-08-20 Thread Keith Moore
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:18:02 -0700 Brian Zill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's okay, you can't use ordinary apps with LL addresses (even on ad hoc networks) if the hosts on which those apps run have more than one active network interface. Huh? I do this all the time. I daresay a lot

RE: Fourth alternative [was Re: Moving forward ....]

2003-08-20 Thread Michel Py
Erik Nordmark wrote: FWIW, I think a multi6 solution with id/loc separation will make the local addressing concerns go away. If it provides something that is almost as good as PI. Tony Hain wrote: Any separation will require a mapping infrastructure to dynamically bind the values back

Re: IPv6 Link-Local Use Issue for Applications

2003-08-20 Thread Keith Moore
I'm not arguing that general-purpose apps should do anything special to support link-local addresses. For the most part, I doubt they'll ever see them, since link-local addresses won't be in the DNS. But then again, I don't think that most apps need to do anything to discourage their use

Some IPv6LL operational experience

2003-08-20 Thread Joshua Graessley
I realize that as an employee of a company that sells a product and tries to implement standards the IETF blesses to solve problems, my voice doesn't really count, but I wanted to toss in my two cents. We have been using IPv6LL addresses with some success. The next release of Mac OS X