Re: [IPsec] Issue #219 - Star topology as an admin choice

2012-05-12 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi. I think it should be more complicated than this. The suggested solution has a dichotomy of either a full mesh or a start topology. The requirements should cover scenarios such as a mesh within an organization connecting to a hub to gateways outside the organization, or multiple hubs

Re: [IPsec] Issue #219 - Star topology as an admin choice

2012-05-12 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Yaov, If I udnerstand correctly, what you seem to be talking about is a Star-of-meshes or a mesh-of-star topology. In my view this would be dealt with in 2 different iterations of the Mesh VPN topology. So there would be a Mesh VPN for the Star topology and a separate instance of the Mesh VPN

Re: [IPsec] Issue #213/ #214 - Allow for non-direct end point connectivity

2012-05-12 Thread Yoav Nir
I'm not sure I understand the suggested resolution. The biggest barrier to direct connectivity is that the responder may be behind NAT. Is this considered a routing issue? In any case, there are protocols for getting to a responder behind a NAT. They work well enough that VoIP solutions work

Re: [IPsec] Issue #219 - Star topology as an admin choice

2012-05-12 Thread Yoav Nir
I might have put it like this if it wan't so similar to the way things are configured on Check Point gateways :-) It makes sense to me, but I'm not sure it covers all the use cases. Imagine a topology that is entirely mesh, except for HTTP(S) traffic that is routed to a central site because

Re: [IPsec] Issue #213/ #214 - Allow for non-direct end point connectivity

2012-05-12 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Yaov, I do see NAT traversal as a requirement and should be made part of the problem statement. I however do not see it as a resolution of #213 or #214. I see resolution for #218 and #211 talk about NAT. Routing is about how packet is sent to the nexthop closer to the destination, which is