Re: Unicast and multicast site-local addresses

2003-10-16 Thread Andrew White
I'm not sure we want to throw out the idea of 'scope'. Even without SL, two scopes are architecturally enshrined in IPv6, link-local (addresses are valid and unique only on-link) and global (addresses are globally unique). You'll notice that I don't say addresses are globally valid.

RE: IPv6 adoption behavior

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Lanciani
Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |That said, there are multiple parts to the isolation issue, and even though |most NAT implementations combine them, the discussion will be more |constructive to keep them separate. I used to believe this, but I recently came to the realization that isolation

Re: IPv6 adoption behavior

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Lanciani
Christian Strauf (JOIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |I don't think that it is about giving up what you need. With a combined |v4/v6-capable firewall- and v4-NAT box you could easily achieve the same |level of isolation of a subnet but without the restrictions for IPv6 |hosts that are forced on

RFC2462 update

2003-10-16 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Hello, (Sorry for the cross-posting. This is because many people who are not in the ipv6 list may want to join the discussion. I'll restrict my further posting to the ipv6 list in order to avoid unnecessary noise.) As asked by the IPv6 wg co-chairs, I'm going to update the IPv6 Stateless

Re: IPv6 adoption behavior

2003-10-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Dan Lanciani wrote: Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |That said, there are multiple parts to the isolation issue, and even though |most NAT implementations combine them, the discussion will be more |constructive to keep them separate. I used to believe this, but I recently came to the

RFC2461 update

2003-10-16 Thread Soliman Hesham
Folks, Sorry for the cross posting. This is a heads up to let you know that I'm updating the Neighbour Discovery specification, RFC 2461 as requested by the IPv6 WG chairs. The updates are likely to include issues raised in the WGs copied on this email. If you're

Re: IPv6 adoption behavior

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Lanciani
Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Dan Lanciani wrote: | | Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | |That said, there are multiple parts to the isolation issue, and even though | |most NAT implementations combine them, the discussion will be more | |constructive to keep them separate. |

Comments on RA issues for MD

2003-10-16 Thread JinHyeock Choi
Ed Remmell wrote: JinHyeock - Unnecessary BU is not a huge problem. So you get an extra L3 handover. Let's Up to some degree. We tested a link with two routers advertising two different prefixes. Then an MN kept sending BU whenever a new RA arrives. But this, I think, we'd better discuss at

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-00.txt

2003-10-16 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Folks, I have some comments regarding this draft. * The draft does not mention that it is RFC 2119 compliant and it is not. Hence it is impossible to figure out if something is mandatory or not. For example in section 2.7.1 page 17 A node is required to compute and join What is the

RE: IPv6 adoption behavior

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Lanciani
Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Dan Lanciani wrote: | ... Attempting to pigeonhole | each aspect of that isolation (and offer limited solutions) encourages a | divide-and-sweep-under-the-rug attack. | |Recent evidence around the IETF supports this claim, but in the real world |where NAT is