Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:18:20 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Tatuya first leaned towards the silent discard behavior because he wanted text in 2462bis to match text in first para of section 7.2.5 of 2461bis. However, I see that as matching apples with oranges. The

Re: draft-wbeebee-nd-implementation-pitfalls-00 with urgent changessuggested to 2462bis-08

2007-07-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:06:21 -0400, Ralph Droms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stig - you wrote At least as a sysadmin/user I would find it confusing if the prefix length I configured would not be used for on- link determination. I think it's more bad than good to try to separate the two. I'm

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt

2007-07-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-07-06 02:59, Stephen Sprunk wrote: ... Why would you ever change PI space? The issue is changing PA space, and that's something that may need to be done every few weeks as upstream links go up and down. Absolutely not. If you have 3 ISPs you run 3 PA prefixes all the time. If you

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Vlad Yasevich
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: In conclusion I'd like to propose to change the paragraph of Section 5.4.4 from: On receipt of a valid Neighbor Advertisement message on an interface, node behavior depends on whether the target address is tentative or matches a unicast or anycast

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-rh0-01.txt

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Abley
On 6-Jul-2007, at 00:31, Christopher Morrow wrote: I hesitate to get rid or something because of this sole reason, I think another answer would be to make paying attention to it just optional for routing gear (or all things, honestly I really only care about routing gear, and so does this

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Julien Laganier
On Friday 06 July 2007 04:25, JINMEI Tatuya / wrote: At Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:49:21 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tested BSD by sending it an RA with no PIO and M and O bits set so that BSD initiates DHCPv6 ? Once BSD host is online with DHCPv6

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Tatuya, Thanks for agreeing with our suggestion to not silently discard the advertisement. The new paragraph from you is still not complete because you have missed the part when a match of target address is not found in the receiving interface, then the NA has to be processed as per 2461bis.

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-rh0-01.txt

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 7/6/07, Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6-Jul-2007, at 00:31, Christopher Morrow wrote: I hesitate to get rid or something because of this sole reason, I think another answer would be to make paying attention to it just optional for routing gear (or all things, honestly I really

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-rh0-01.txt

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Abley
[Note that I am not replying out of a desire to engage in advocacy; you should read this more as editorial summaries of discussions that have already happened here when the questions you raised were asked before.] On 6-Jul-2007, at 10:46, Christopher Morrow wrote: I recognize that a host

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Vlad Yasevich
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: On receipt of a valid Neighbor Advertisement message on an interface, node behavior depends on whether the target address is tentative or matches a unicast or anycast address assigned to the interface. If the target address is tentative, the

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:16:01 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for agreeing with our suggestion to not silently discard the advertisement. The new paragraph from you is still not complete because you have missed the part when a match of target address is not found

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Tatuya, The new paragraph looks good. I had combined matched tentative and non-tentative addresses handling with a common error message logged, but I see your point that let's handle the tentative by sending the handling to section 5.4.5 and handle the non-tentative with an error message.

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:00:10 -0400, Bernie Volz (volz) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though putting this into a list (1., 2., 3.) would likely make it much more readable and parseable. On receipt of a valid Neighbor Advertisement message on an interface, node behavior depends on whether

FW: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
-Original Message- From: Hemant Singh (shemant) Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:21 PM To: 'Vlad Yasevich' Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO Vlad, Thanks very much for the review. Please see our responses in line below against hs.

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Vlad, Thanks very much for the review. Please see our responses in line below against hs. -Original Message- From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:39 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hi Hemant Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: Vlad, vy I believe that you are reading too much into section 3.1. That section simply does a comparison to IPv4. It does not mandate anything and doesn't not specify any specific beavhior. That is saved for later. hs Totally agree with you. We

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt

2007-07-06 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2007-07-06 02:59, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Why would you ever change PI space? The issue is changing PA space, and that's something that may need to be done every few weeks as upstream links go up and down. Absolutely not. If you have 3 ISPs you

Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-global-01.txt

2007-07-06 Thread Paul Vixie
re: http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/ula-global.txt, the internet-drafts@ staff asked me to resubmit it with a -00 filename, which i did, and then spoke as follows. so, if this WG weren't inactive, and we were meeting in chicago, then this draft could not be discussed there. jfyi: Date: Fri, 6 Jul