Re: draft-yhb-6man-ra-privacy-flag-02

2011-03-10 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:45:54 +0100 (CET) sth...@nethelp.no wrote: The common argument from the stateful-only crowd seems to be that they need to have a log of IPv6 address/MAC addresses for audit purposes, and therefore think they need to have stateful, database driven addressing to do

Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Ran Atkinson
On 10 Mar 2011, at 02:34 , Dan Wing wrote: Nobody wants it removed in corporate deployments, either. That statement is far too strong; it simply is not true. Consider for a moment an IPv6-enabled telephone, on the desk of a Very Important Person at a company, ... (Laugh. I don't believe

Re: draft-yhb-6man-ra-privacy-flag-02

2011-03-10 Thread sthaug
The common argument from the stateful-only crowd seems to be that they need to have a log of IPv6 address/MAC addresses for audit purposes, and therefore think they need to have stateful, database driven addressing to do that, probably because that is how it has been done in IPv4.

Re: RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mar 9, 2011 11:34 PM, Dan Wing dw...@cisco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: Mikael Abrahamsson Cc: ipv6@ietf.org; Ran Atkinson Subject: Re:

Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread james woodyatt
On Mar 10, 2011, at 4:10 AM, Ran Atkinson wrote: It seems pretty clear that Fred's NPTv6 is going to be deployed in at least some locations, albeit for entirely different reasons. I'm not sure if that meets your definition of NAPT66 or not. It does not. NPTv6 only translates the network

RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Chilton
Doesn't a combination of RFC4941 and NPTv6 produce the necessary privacy over both parts of the IPv6 address? (BTW thats a question from an interested observer new to this topic, not a statement - I started following this thread and ended up digging around in the RFCs and drafts the thread

RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Dan Wing
-Original Message- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ran Atkinson Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:10 AM To: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt On 10 Mar 2011, at 02:34 , Dan Wing wrote: Nobody

RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Dan Wing
-Original Message- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Chilton Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:18 AM To: james woodyatt Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt Doesn't a combination of RFC4941

RE: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Christian Huitema
I'm saying the reasons people are tempted to disable RFC4941 are misplaced. +1 Consider that if I want privacy and you won't let me use RFC4941, I might just make up a new MAC address each time I connect. Consider also the effect of unique identifiers on tracking. The MAC address follows

Re: draft-gont-6man-managing-privacy-extensions-00.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/09/2011 06:57, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: If you want to know the mac address of the computer who used an IP address at a certain time, then you need to tell the host to only use EUI64 based address and nothing else, you don't tell it to disable privacy extensions. Just because privacy

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-07.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Thomas Narten
Pekka Savola pek...@netcore.fi writes: I have reviewed this document. Thanks agin! The most important omission is that RFC4294 changelog is not up-to-date. This gives a good overview on what has changed and it needs to convey accurate information. ACK. I've just posted a new version. Have

I-D Action:draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-08.txt

2011-03-10 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Maintenance Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv6 Node Requirements RFC 4294-bis Author(s) : E. Jankiewicz, et al. Filename: