Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Erik Nordmark
Pekka Savola wrote: I'm not sure if I understand your comment. Are you saying the ND proxy spec is too complicated? Well, I myself suggested removing the spanning tree loop prevention from the draft completely (now it has a bit in the RAs) because it wasn't needed in the applicability we ha

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Joe Touch
Roger Jorgensen wrote: > On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Joe Touch wrote: > >>Danny Mayer wrote: >> >>>Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> Jari Arkko wrote: ... >o Whether we actually want to define a secure approach to >proxies. Here I'd personally be OK even with no security >for proxyi

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Roger Jorgensen
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Joe Touch wrote: > Danny Mayer wrote: > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> Jari Arkko wrote: > >> ... > >>> o Whether we actually want to define a secure approach to > >>> proxies. Here I'd personally be OK even with no security > >>> for proxying, as long as the above issues were

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Joe Touch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Danny Mayer wrote: > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> Jari Arkko wrote: >> ... >> >>> o Whether we actually want to define a secure approach to >>> proxies. Here I'd personally be OK even with no security >>> for proxying, as long as the above issues w

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Danny Mayer
Brian E Carpenter wrote: Jari Arkko wrote: ... o Whether we actually want to define a secure approach to proxies. Here I'd personally be OK even with no security for proxying, as long as the above issues were corrected. But you could also argue the other way; the IETF usually does require manda

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Thomas Narten
> I am fine with that it is the sense that this new group can over-rule > the IETF process that is all. I don't believe anyone ever suggested this would be the case. > A PS has to have continued technical > review and Thomas could have expressed his concerns in the IPv6 WG. Note: this document i

RE: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Bound, Jim
TECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:40 AM > To: Bound, Jim > Cc: Pekka Savola; ipv6@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt > > Actually Jim, it is an open mailing list and they > hold open Area meetings,

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
F with industry. This is highly questionable behavior as even a thought. /jim -Original Message- From: Bound, Jim Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:48 AM To: 'Brian E Carpenter'; Pekka Savola Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Int-area] concerns about draft

RE: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-20 Thread Bound, Jim
. /jim > -Original Message- > From: Bound, Jim > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:48 AM > To: 'Brian E Carpenter'; Pekka Savola > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt > > I support nd

RE: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-20 Thread Bound, Jim
is to move on. /jim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian E > Carpenter > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:47 AM > To: Pekka Savola > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Int-area] concer

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Jari Arkko wrote: ... o Whether we actually want to define a secure approach to proxies. Here I'd personally be OK even with no security for proxying, as long as the above issues were corrected. But you could also argue the other way; the IETF usually does require mandatory-to-implement security

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-19 Thread Jari Arkko
Pekka Savola wrote: Wording could be enhanced, but I do not think this document should be blocked by the missing SEND details. Well, what we can discuss is whether there needs to be some SEND support before the document can go forward. But there's actually three issues in the SEND support: o

RE: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-19 Thread COMBES Jean-Michel RD-MAPS-ISS
Hi, > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De > la part de Pekka Savola > Envoyé : lundi 19 septembre 2005 13:32 > À : Thomas Narten > Cc : ipv6@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : Re: [Int-area] concerns about draf

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
People might want to look in the tracker at the other comments that have come up. https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=12623&rfc_flag=0 Brian Pekka Savola wrote: (FWIW, I think ND proxies are useful and needed.) Some comments inline. Adding ipv6 WG. O

Re: [Int-area] concerns about draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-03.txt

2005-09-19 Thread Pekka Savola
(FWIW, I think ND proxies are useful and needed.) Some comments inline. Adding ipv6 WG. On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Thomas Narten wrote: 1) I do not believe the material on IPv4 ARP proxy should be included. It is not in-scope for the IPv6 WG to be developing it, and any document on proxy ARP in IPv