Re: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-02 Thread Bob Hinden
On Oct 2, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> e.g., would FreeBSD (developers?) need a license to ship the OS with a >> SEND implementation? >> >> -- does it really change the state of affairs if the product is sold vs. >> given away for free? > > you really need to ask your lawyer. > > t

Re: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-02 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Oct 2, 2010, at 13:10, Fernando Gont wrote: > FWIW, not only I do not have a ipr-illustrated lawyer, but I'm not > willing to pay for a lawyer to illustrate me about something I'm not > planning to implement or ship myself, either. Fernando, current patent law has many interesting properties

Re: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-02 Thread Fernando Gont
On 02/10/2010 05:57 a.m., Randy Bush wrote: >> e.g., would FreeBSD (developers?) need a license to ship the OS with a >> SEND implementation? >> >> -- does it really change the state of affairs if the product is sold vs. >> given away for free? > > you really need to ask your lawyer. I thought

Re: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-02 Thread Randy Bush
> e.g., would FreeBSD (developers?) need a license to ship the OS with a > SEND implementation? > > -- does it really change the state of affairs if the product is sold vs. > given away for free? you really need to ask your lawyer. though i am sure you will get plenty of advice here. if not,

Re: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-02 Thread Fernando Gont
On 01/10/2010 10:10 p.m., Bob Hinden wrote: >> It has been pointed out to me of the IPRs on SEND/CGAs, which I >> checked at: [] >> Can anybody confirm that it is required to get a license from MS >> to implement this? > > I can't speak to that directly

Re: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-01 Thread Bob Hinden
Fernando, On Oct 1, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Fernando Gont wrote: > Hi, folks, > > It has been pointed out to me of the IPRs on SEND/CGAs, which I checked at: > > * https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=rfc_search&rfc_search=3971 > * https://datatracker.ietf.

Re: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-01 Thread Ana Kukec
Hi Fernando, Fernando Gont wrote: Also: anybody aware of freely available implementations of SEND? FreeBSD provides the SEND implementation (BSD license). The implementation consists of the send kernel module and FreeBSD port. The send module contains the kernel-side SEND support for *BS

RE: IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-01 Thread Laganier, Julien
Fernando Gont wrote: > > Hi, folks, > > It has been pointed out to me of the IPRs on SEND/CGAs, which I checked > at: > > * > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=rfc_search&rfc_search=3 > 971 > * > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/

IPRs on SEND/CGAs?

2010-10-01 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, folks, It has been pointed out to me of the IPRs on SEND/CGAs, which I checked at: * https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=rfc_search&rfc_search=3971 * https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=rfc_search&rfc_search=3972 KAME also commented on these (and other) IPRs