Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-14 Thread Jonathan Hui
Hi Erik, On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Erik Nordmark wrote: On 06/10/10 12:31 PM, Jonathan Hui wrote: So a packet sent by R1 that will be forwarded outside of the ROLL network will have a outer IPv6 header whose destination is the BR? That is where we started. Draft-01 does have a line or

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-11 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 06/10/10 12:31 PM, Jonathan Hui wrote: So a packet sent by R1 that will be forwarded outside of the ROLL network will have a outer IPv6 header whose destination is the BR? That is where we started. Draft-01 does have a line or two about the possibility of exempting the last entry in a RH4

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Jun 10, 2010, at 04:13, Jonathan Hui wrote: If you don't think the mechanism in 6lowpan-hc is effective in compressing IP-in-IP datagrams, then we should discuss that on the 6lowpan ML. Indeed, let's do that, best with actual examples. Gruesse, Carsten

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread JP Vasseur
attacks Comments/feedback appreciated as always. -- Jonathan Hui Begin forwarded message: From: IETF I-D Submission Tool idsubmiss...@ietf.org Date: June 9, 2010 8:48:30 AM PDT To: j...@archrock.com Cc: j...@cisco.com,cul...@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Carsten/ Jonathan, One thing I can see is that in RPL cases we will have the inner and outer header destination IPv6 address the same (for packets from outside the domain). We can easily compress that. In some cases the inner and outer IPv6 source address may be the same (For packets

Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 06/ 9/10 09:32 AM, Jonathan Hui wrote: We have updated both draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header as well as draft-hui-6man-rpl-option-header based on feedback from Anaheim as well as discussions on the ML. Summary of changes: - Specify a maximum size for header/option so that it is possible to

Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Erik, When IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling is used, what is the destination IP address in the outer header? Normally it would be the router that would strip the outer header and RH4. Is that the case here as well? It wasn't clear to me whether you are proposing IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling for packets

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan Hui
On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Erik Nordmark wrote: On 06/10/10 12:06 PM, Jonathan Hui wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Erik Nordmark wrote: When IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling is used, what is the destination IP address in the outer header? Normally it would be the router that would strip the

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 06/10/10 12:06 PM, Jonathan Hui wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Erik Nordmark wrote: When IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling is used, what is the destination IP address in the outer header? Normally it would be the router that would strip the outer header and RH4. Is that the case here as well?

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan Hui
On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Erik Nordmark wrote: When IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling is used, what is the destination IP address in the outer header? Normally it would be the router that would strip the outer header and RH4. Is that the case here as well? Yes, that is what we intended. It

Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Jonathan Hui
Submission Tool idsubmiss...@ietf.org Date: June 9, 2010 8:48:30 AM PDT To: j...@archrock.com Cc: j...@cisco.com,cul...@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing- header-01 A new version of I-D, draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01.txt has been

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Vishwas Manral
...@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: New Version Notification for  draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01 A new version of I-D, draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Jonathan Hui and posted to the IETF repository. Filename:        draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Jonathan Hui
...@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01 A new version of I-D, draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Jonathan Hui and posted to the IETF repository. Filename:draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header Revision

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Jun 9, 2010, at 19:37, Jonathan Hui wrote: The case where IP-in-IP tunneling is not needed is if the RPL router itself originates a packet. In a LLN network, it is common for RPL routers to originate datagrams as they often serve as application end-points as well. Jonathan, do we know

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Jonathan Hui
Carsten, On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: do we know how to compress this IP-RH4-IP-UDP stack? (The first IP header compresses reasonable well; I'm worrying about the second.) Or did RPL just become a lot less useful in a LoWPAN with hosts? Section 4.2 of the