Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread C. M. Heard
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Hi Ron, On 21/08/2013 01:33, Ronald Bonica wrote: Hi Mike, Thanks for your review of all three documents. The following is some gentle pushback. ... There is no real solution to the long header problem. The best that we can do

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread Ronald Bonica
Mike, Good point! The pointer field in the ICMPv6 Parameter Problem Message needs to carry some value. My first guess would be to point at the first byte of the Fragment Header, because the packet is improperly fragmented. I would not point at the Payload Length in the IPv6 header, because

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread C. M. Heard
The reason I didn't suggest pointing at the Fragment Header is because it would carry the same information that it would in a correctly fragmented packet, namely M=1 and Fragment Offset=0 (the signature of an initial fragment). The Payload Length field is what indicates that the fragment is

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread Ole Troan
The reason I didn't suggest pointing at the Fragment Header is because it would carry the same information that it would in a correctly fragmented packet, namely M=1 and Fragment Offset=0 (the signature of an initial fragment). The Payload Length field is what indicates that the fragment

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread Ronald Bonica
: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- chain-04 The reason I didn't suggest pointing at the Fragment Header is because it would carry the same information that it would in a correctly fragmented packet, namely M=1 and Fragment Offset=0 (the signature of an initial fragment

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread Ronald Bonica
: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:37 AM To: C.M.Heard Cc: IPv6 Subject: Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- chain-04 The reason I didn't suggest pointing at the Fragment Header is because it would carry the same information that it would in a correctly fragmented packet

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread Ole Troan
: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:37 AM To: C.M.Heard Cc: IPv6 Subject: Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- chain-04 The reason I didn't suggest pointing at the Fragment Header is because it would carry the same information that it would in a correctly fragmented packet

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread Ronald Bonica
...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Troan Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:37 AM To: C.M.Heard Cc: IPv6 Subject: Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- chain-04 The reason I didn't suggest pointing at the Fragment Header is because it would carry the same information

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread C. M. Heard
Bonica Cc: C.M.Heard; IPv6 Subject: Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- chain-04 This works, too. But now we have three participants in the discussion and three opinions! Let's just pick one! Does anybody have a coin? who calls edge? ;-) cheers, Ole

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread Ronald Bonica
Then 0 it is! Ron -Original Message- From: C. M. Heard [mailto:he...@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:01 PM To: Ronald Bonica Cc: Ole Troan; IPv6 Subject: RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- chain-04 Works for me. //cmh On Wed

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-21 Thread George, Wes
] On Behalf Of Ronald Bonica Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:34 AM To: C. M. Heard; IPv6 Subject: RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain- 04 Hi Mike, Thanks for your review of all three documents. The following is some gentle pushback. At IETF 87, the 6man WG

RE: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-20 Thread Ronald Bonica
To: IPv6 Subject: Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- chain-04 Greetings, My main question is why this draft is not better integrated with draft-wkumari-long-headers-01 and draft-bonica-6man-frag-deprecate, which have overlapping or at least related subject matter

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-19 Thread C. M. Heard
Greetings, My main question is why this draft is not better integrated with draft-wkumari-long-headers-01 and draft-bonica-6man-frag-deprecate, which have overlapping or at least related subject matter. The thrust of draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain is to require that all extension

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-19 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Mike On 08/19/2013 09:58 PM, C. M. Heard wrote: My main question is why this draft is not better integrated with draft-wkumari-long-headers-01 and draft-bonica-6man-frag-deprecate, which have overlapping or at least related subject matter. Because what's in

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header-chain-04

2013-08-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 20/08/2013 16:02, Fernando Gont wrote: Hi, Mike On 08/19/2013 09:58 PM, C. M. Heard wrote: My main question is why this draft is not better integrated with draft-wkumari-long-headers-01 and draft-bonica-6man-frag-deprecate, which have overlapping or at least related subject matter.