Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-06 Thread Per Heldal
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 10:32 +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-12-06 13:28, Per Heldal wrote: and ULA does IMHO not qualify as such. IMHO ULA does qualify, in fact must qualify, since ULAs have technical impact (see my previous note and Tony Hain's comment on it). I still

Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 5, 2007 2:39 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. sort of correct... I believe the fear here is that if you are in a world of provider-assigned ip space without any simple hope for renumbering you will look for ULA-x as a 'no

Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Dickson
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. People need address space to number the links between their SQL and web servers. This is completely orthogonal to address space used on the internet. ULA is also UNIQUE. (Well, for half of ULA, probably unique). It

Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:39:19 -0800 Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. People need address space to number the links between their SQL and web servers. This is completely orthogonal to address space used on the internet. It also

RE: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Manfredi, Albert E
-Original Message- From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:05 PM To: Brian Dickson; Iljitsch van Beijnum Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List Subject: RE: Stupid ULA discussion Hi Brian, And to point out the existence of a suitable

Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Erik Nordmark
Suresh Krishnan wrote: Please do not suggest anything remotely close to this. The v4 mapped v6 address space is for API compatibility purposes only (i.e. use AF_INET6 with v4 addresses). These addresses should never ever appear on the wire. Never say never. RFC 2765 - a proposed standard -

Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread james woodyatt
The subject line on this thread is absolutely correct. On Dec 5, 2007, at 13:32, Brian Dickson wrote: Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. People need address space to number the links between their SQL and web servers. This is completely orthogonal to

RE: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Brian, And to point out the existence of a suitable replacement for IPv4's 10.0.0.0/8 et al, if they want a non-registered, non-unique, truly non-routable address space that maps well to their current RFC 1918 space. And that would be the IPv4-mapped IPv6 address space for RFC 1918.

RE: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread michael.dillon
ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. People need address space to number the links between their SQL and web servers. This is completely orthogonal to address space used on the internet. Agreed! If it's routed at some point, this means we're all getting enough money to

RE: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Templin, Fred L
James, -Original Message- From: james woodyatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:27 PM To: IETF IPv6 Mailing List Subject: Re: Stupid ULA discussion The subject line on this thread is absolutely correct. On Dec 5, 2007, at 13:32, Brian Dickson

RE: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Tony Hain
Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-12-06 08:39, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. Another way to say it is that there is a default expectation that ULAs will be filtered and that PI prefixes will be routed. That's a good enough rationale for having

Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Per Heldal
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 11:39 -0800, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. People need address space to number the links between their SQL and web servers. This is completely orthogonal to address space used on the internet. If it's routed at some