Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-08 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi, * Arifumi Matsumoto > But, your suggestion of Rule 4.5 does more than de-prioritization > of 6to4 prefix. It de-prioritizes 6to4 _routers_ - rule 6 is taking care of de-prioritizing the 6to4 prefix. All put together, this ensures the source address selection algorithm selects an a

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
of rogue 6to4 RA. But, what matters is if it can always select the best address, or expected to select the best in most reasonable environment. > Since next-hop selection is so tightly coupled with source address > selection I think it makes lots of sense to handle both in RFC 3484. IMO, it&

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Tore Anderson
ion address selection, route (next-hop) selection, and > source address selection, brings much benefits to implementing and > understanding the protocol stack. > > So, if you break it, we really have to be careful about its benefits > and side effects. I can see that. There's i

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
gned us SA > R2) fe80::1 <-- a "proper" router, assigned us SB > > The destination address D is a native IPv6 address - say > 2001:db8:1234::1. Single-stack IPv6 only so the destination address > selection doesn't come into play. > > My understanding of the

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Tore Anderson
next-hops are: R1) fe80::bad <-- a 6to4 rogue router, assigned us SA R2) fe80::1 <-- a "proper" router, assigned us SB The destination address D is a native IPv6 address - say 2001:db8:1234::1. Single-stack IPv6 only so the destination address selection doesn't come into play

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-01 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
ting > the best source/destination address pair, you end up pre-empting the > address table completely.  To avoid that I think you have to determine > the appropriate next-hop _after_ the source/destination address. The RFC 3484 source address selection rule 5 already makes use of the in

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-01 Thread Tore Anderson
Hello Arifumi, * Arifumi Matsumoto > On a host to which my suggestion is applied, > if the next-hop is 6to4 advertising host/router, then the source > address will be 6to4. > If the next-hop is native IPv6 adverting router, then the source > address will be native IPv6. > And, it's depending on w

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-31 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, On 2010/10/27, at 16:00, Ole Troan wrote: >> Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. >> It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic >> cases related to address selection. >> The rule is: >> >> Prefer to select an address as the source address

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-31 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, thanks for sharing your concern. My comments below. On 2010/10/31, at 20:31, Tore Anderson wrote: > Hi, > > * Arifumi Matsumoto > >> Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. >> It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic >> cases related to

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-31 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi, * Arifumi Matsumoto > Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. > It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic > cases related to address selection. > The rule is: > > Prefer to select an address as the source address that is > assigned by t

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-29 Thread Aleksi Suhonen
sel algorithm (*) incorporates this as one of its base assumptions and as such I'm of course all for it. However, in the general case it can prove to be very difficult to actually implement. Source address selection usually happens in the kernel, but interface address assignment happens

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-27 Thread Ole Troan
> Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. > It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic > cases related to address selection. > The rule is: > > Prefer to select an address as the source address that is > assigned by the selected next-hop. > > T

adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-26 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi all, Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic cases related to address selection. The rule is: Prefer to select an address as the source address that is assigned by the selected next-hop. This rul

Re: source address selection revisited

2009-09-04 Thread Aleksi Suhonen
Arifumi Matsumoto wrote: FYI, I remember M. Bagnulo were working on similar problems related to source addresse selection mechanism, which is described in the following expired document. Thanks, I'll look into that. > [deleted my own post here] I'm afraid the latter change for getaddrinfo() mi

Re: source address selection revisited

2009-08-13 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, FYI, I remember M. Bagnulo were working on similar problems related to source addresse selection mechanism, which is described in the following expired document. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bagnulo-ipv6-rfc3484-update-00 further comments below. This got me thinking, and here are som

source address selection revisited

2009-08-05 Thread Aleksi Suhonen
Hi, One of my problems with existing address selection implementations is that they pick just one source address per destination address. They never try another source address even if a valid alternative source address existed for a destination address. This has caused me some headaches with

Re: Source Address Selection just from Routing Information

2007-12-01 Thread FUJIKAWA Kenji
Rémi Denis-Courmont; Thank you for your comments. At Sun, 2 Dec 2007 03:06:05 +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > > Le Friday 30 November 2007 04:56:58 FUJIKAWA Kenji, vous avez écrit : > > The downstream interface of router R is assigned both addresses > > 2001:db8:1001:R and 2001:db8:3001:R. >

Re: Source Address Selection just from Routing Information

2007-12-01 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le Friday 30 November 2007 04:56:58 FUJIKAWA Kenji, vous avez écrit : > The downstream interface of router R is assigned both addresses > 2001:db8:1001:R and 2001:db8:3001:R. > This is required even if R has only a single downstream link. As your document notes, these is needed *anyway*, because o

Source Address Selection just from Routing Information

2007-11-29 Thread FUJIKAWA Kenji
Hi all, In http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/agenda/6man.txt , > - Address Selection > * draft-fujikawa-ipv6-src-addr-selection-01.txt Fujikawa 5 > minutes my slot is allocated. Thank you very much for allocation, Chairs. I would like to briefly introduce my draft. The questio

Source Address Selection

2007-11-25 Thread FUJIKAWA Kenji
Dear 6man chairs and members; I posted an internet draft, draft-fujikawa-ipv6-src-addr-selection-01.txt which shows one method of selecting a source address just from ordinal destination-based routing information. Can I have just 5 minutes to make a presentation in the next IETF 6man WG

Re: [Mip6] DHAAD and source address selection

2007-10-17 Thread Brian Haley
Hi, Nicolas Dichtel wrote: I've a question about source address selection in HAAD Reply message. ... RUT is a Home Agent and the Home Link is Link0. This is important. MN1X sends a HAAD Request message to its home agent (RUT). The destination address of this message is an anycast ad

Re: [Mip6] DHAAD and source address selection

2007-10-17 Thread Vijay Devarapalli
;t be used as the source address, but was removed recently. I forget which spec. Vijay Nicolas Dichtel wrote: Hi, I've a question about source address selection in HAAD Reply message. Here is the topology:

Re: [Mip6] DHAAD and source address selection

2007-10-17 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Nicolas Dichtel wrote: Hi, I've a question about source address selection in HAAD Reply message. Here is the topology: MN1X | +---+--- Link1X |

Fwd: RFC 5014 on IPv6 Socket API for Source Address Selection

2007-09-24 Thread Julien Laganier
FYI, --julien --- A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5014 Title: IPv6 Socket API for Source Address Selection Author

Revised Drafts on Source Address Selection Posted

2005-02-02 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi all, [Let me re-send this mail. Yesterday my post was returned because of user-unknown.] We've submitted a set of revised internet drafts about IPv6 source address selection policy distribution. Title : Source Address Selection Policy Distribution for Multihoming Filename: draft-ar

New Draft on Source Address Selection Posted

2004-10-19 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, all. I posted the following e-mail to multi6-wg a few days ago. But I guess many of people in this wg also should have interests in it. So let me cross-post it to here. I submitted 3 new I-Ds about Source Address Selection issue. These will appear on ietf web site soon. The first one is a

source address selection and address lifetimes

2004-08-06 Thread Grubmair Peter
In RFC3484 source address selection is described, which selects a source address from a candidate set by defining a total ordering onto the addresses. Typically (RCOMMENDED) the candidate set consist of just the addresses assigned to the outgoing interface. In case that all global addresses

[psg.com #268] Deprecated Addresses and Source address selection

2004-02-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
No objection to the proposed resolution, so the issue is closed. Please revisit the issue if you have a different opinion. IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mai

[psg.com #268] Deprecated Addresses and Source address selection

2004-02-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
No objection to the proposed resolution, so the issue is closed. Please revisit the issue if you have a different opinion. IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mai