Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Erik Hatcher
Steven, Thanks for this prod. I've been meaning to debrief the Lucene dev group on a recent visit I made to IBM's Silicon Valley Labs where I presented Lucene and met with their search gurus. A recurring theme from them was the management of Java Lucene project, and what they and we can

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Looking into the payload patch is next on my list after I finish up the benchmarking, but I know the payload patch is going to require several sets of eyes and some discussion. I would like to see the more flexible index format addressed and I am not sure about the removal of Fieldable as

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Chris Hostetter
: "patch submitted" which, as it's used on Hadoop, seems to facilitate : communication. State changes (open->patch submitted, : patch-submitted->open) seem to help communications between contributors : and reviewers. Looking at the Lucene Java Jira, sometimes "[patch]" is : put at the beginning of

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Cutting
Steven Parkes wrote: Is there sufficient interest to consider this for Lucene Java? (I'd write "any interest", but since I'm interested, there's at least some.) +1 If there is agreement, I can gladly change Lucene Java to use Hadoop's Jira workflow. The other thing I was thinking of was th

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Cutting
Chris Hostetter wrote: Perhaps we should have two new statuses: "rough patch available" and "polished patch available" ? The other thing i would like to see tracked better is the distinction between issues that unit tests attached and issues that do not ... this is somewhat orthoginal to patch a

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Is it explicitly stated anywhere what the workflow is/should be? -Grant On Oct 17, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: Steven Parkes wrote: Is there sufficient interest to consider this for Lucene Java? (I'd write "any interest", but since I'm interested, there's at least some.) +1 I

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Cutting
Grant Ingersoll wrote: Is it explicitly stated anywhere what the workflow is/should be? I can't see the workflow when I'm not logged in. I think you might have to be a Jira administrator to view workflows. Some information about them is up at: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/docs/v

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Parkes
al Message- From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:20 AM To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: jira workflow Is it explicitly stated anywhere what the workflow is/should be? -Grant --

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Cutting
Doug Cutting wrote: I've attached an image of it to this message. Well, that didn't work. Instead I added it to Hadoop's wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-hadoop-data/attachments/JiraWorkflow/attachments/workflow.png Doug --

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Parkes
Looking at some currently closed issues, it looks like it should be possible to add comments and links to closed issues. It provides the comment button anyway. I haven't tried to push it. We could test on the test SOLR issue. Looking at the Jira docs, it looks like you can configure closed issues

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Cutting
Steven Parkes wrote: My main concern is that things get lost in lists that grow without bound. I've never been to concerned about the size of the open bug list. It can be searched, if one wishes to find whether there's already an issue before filing a new one. The lists I try to keep small

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Grant Ingersoll
A comment from a committer or contributor should be sufficient to explain why something has not been committed, fixed or whatever, and what action might next be needed. The scarcest resource is committers. So we want to be able to focus their activities. "Patch Available" is a call to

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Parkes
The cases I'm thinking of are those issues, be they bug fixes or critical functionality, that are submitted by non-contributors, people that aren't going to do the coding themselves. I might be very interested in some of those, probably the bugs in particular. I'm just trying to figure out how I'll

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Cutting
Steven Parkes wrote: It wasn't really about having a list of needs clarification. It was more about bounding open. I suppose it's my product development side showing. Generally we tried not to leave issues open indefinitely, for fear of not getting back to a customer. Perhaps there's nothing comp

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Parkes
Just because you've gotten back doesn't mean the issue is gone. No, just clarifying whose court the ball is in. In the patch available case, it's clear. Looking at the some long standing open issues, sometimes discussion peters out and it's not clear whether submitter and commenters are on

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Grant Ingersoll
So is Hadoop's workflow acceptable to all? +1 I can put the diagram up on Wiki if this is approved. Also, is there a way to add links from JIRA? -Grant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-17 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 10/17/06, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So is Hadoop's workflow acceptable to all? +1 for Hadoop's JIRA workflow. As far as how that workflow should be used, I think we need a wiki page. -Yonik - To unsubscribe,

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-18 Thread Doug Cutting
Steven Parkes wrote: Just because you've gotten back doesn't mean the issue is gone. No, just clarifying whose court the ball is in. To make progress, an issue needs an advocate. If no one cares about it, it will languish. If the advocate is not capable of doing the work themselves

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-18 Thread Doug Cutting
Steven Parkes wrote: I would like to be added to the Jira developer list. Done. Doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-18 Thread Doug Cutting
Doug Cutting wrote: Steven Parkes wrote: I would like to be added to the Jira developer list. I'm also happy to add other contributors, so that they can assign themselves issues. A quick glance at recent Jira activity suggests that the following folks might be added to the lucene-developers

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-18 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 10/18/06, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A quick glance at recent Jira activity suggests that the following folks might be added to the lucene-developers group: Doron Cohen Karl Wettin Michael McCandless Michael Busch Ning Li +1 to these Abdul Chaudhry He open

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-18 Thread Doug Cutting
Yonik Seeley wrote: On 10/18/06, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A quick glance at recent Jira activity suggests that the following folks might be added to the lucene-developers group: Doron Cohen Karl Wettin Michael McCandless Michael Busch Ning Li +1 to these Done.

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-18 Thread Chris Hostetter
: BTW, I added new fields to Lucene for "New" issues and "Patch : Available". This is much lighter-weight than switching the workflow, : although it doesn't seem to appear on all the screens yet. Perhaps it : just takes a while... Ah-HA! ... very cool. FYI: if you click the "Configure your Iss

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-18 Thread Steven Parkes
BTW, I added new fields to Lucene for "New" issues and "Patch Available". Cool. Shows up on the create and edit pages which seem to be the most important. It won't show up when creating a filter unless the filter already has "Lucene Java" specified in the first entry because it's

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-20 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Everyone's busy, so I think what's needed is a reminder that 1) voting is possible and 2) voting helps prioritize commits. Is it possible to change the format/template of outgoing email when a new issue is created? If so, would it be possible to add a sentence about voting for issues to it? Per

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-20 Thread Grant Ingersoll
+1 Could we add a more generic signature to the unsubscribe signature on the User mailing list, as well? Something like: - Please let us know what is important to you and vote on Lucene issues at [URL] To unsubscribe, e-mai

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-25 Thread Steven Parkes
Follow up on the workflow stuff: With a larger group of people able to work at the Jira level, do we want to have an approach to assignee? Otis was getting ready to commit a patch I had shepherded through and assigned the issue to himself in the process. This is what's always been done in the past

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Hostetter
: Since that's not the case now, I'd suggest it's reasonable for a : committer to commit w/o changing the assignee, only changing the state : to resolved. Facilitates communication on issues that might arise later : and helps gauge individual involvement. I guess it depends on how we want to defi

RE: jira workflow

2006-10-25 Thread Steven Parkes
svn annotates the jira logs, which is more than a comment, but still not navigable -Original Message- From: Chris Hostetter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:37 AM To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: jira workflow : Since that's not the cas

Re: jira workflow

2006-10-25 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
es <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:14:19 PM Subject: RE: jira workflow Follow up on the workflow stuff: With a larger group of people able to work at the Jira level, do we want to have an approach to assignee? Otis was getting ready to commit a patch