We have a story in the upcoming podcast about JBoss Tattletale -
http://www.jboss.org/tattletale - sounds like it might help, and it's
from JBoss as well :-).
Cheers
Dick
On May 6, 7:08 pm, tachoknight wrote:
> Hi all-
>
> Okay, I've had it. I wrote some web service code to be deployed in a
>
Hi all-
Okay, I've had it. I wrote some web service code to be deployed in a
JBoss 4 AS which works great. Writing the code wasn't really hard, but
figuring out which Jar provided by JBoss was; it was a lot of trial
and error by determining from the filename of the jar. Finally I got
my ant scrip
Chas,
You have plenty to say, considering you've never used JavaFX
Script ;-)
Here's a reality check...
I've been programming complex graphics, in a variety of languages, for
over twenty five years, since I was a kid. On everything from early 8-
bit microcomputers, through high-end vector and r
Perhaps a better example of scala making life easier. Here I'm use "for
expressions" along with "operator syntax" and "lambda expresisons" on the
Scala XML dom to parse out all link URLs from a web document that end with
rpm
val urls = for { link <- webpageDom \\ "a"
locat
While you're asking for criticism... here are my unsolicited $.02
Performance still seems to need work... in terms of using it for UI,
it still feels sluggish to me, sort of like Flash. In terms of
animation, it isn't as smooth as I'm wanting to see. When I heard
that they were introducing some
Josh,
Some random thoughts. Please note that I've not played with javafx at
all; this is entirely from the perspective of someone evaluating the
technical state of play at the most superficial level:
(a) the demos being semi-broken on OS X (and even on windows,
sporadically, and with no reason
Thanks for the update Josh. I too am eagerly awaiting a official linux
support.
Adam
On May 6, 5:40 pm, Joshua Marinacci wrote:
> we don't want to commit to something that we can't ship. there's
> always the possibility that some critical bugs won't get fixed in
> time. things are looking g
A bunch of ALM (applications lifecycle management) stuff. StartTeam version
control. Caliber requirements management. Testing tools.
Lloyd
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Marcelo Morales wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Tom Copeland wrote:
> >
> > per Slashdot:
> >
> > http://ne
we don't want to commit to something that we can't ship. there's
always the possibility that some critical bugs won't get fixed in
time. things are looking good right now, though. that's the best I can
say.
On May 6, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Paul Hardin wrote:
>
> Josh,
>
> On May 6, 1:21 pm, Josh
Josh,
On May 6, 1:21 pm, Joshua Marinacci wrote:
> They are close to being ready and we hope to have something
> for you very soon.
>
> - Josh
This is good news, indeed! I think it regrettable that news has not
been forthcoming with regard to the progress, and some estimate of
release, for
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Tom Copeland wrote:
>
> per Slashdot:
>
> http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/06/1619250&art_pos=2
>
> Maybe some of that JBuilder-ish code will end up powering MicroFocus'
> COBOL dev tools...
That has gone to embarcadero. There is no borland jbuild
The core of JavaFX is very portable and has always run on Linux and
Solaris. This is to be expected since it's built on the Java platform.
What is not as portable are things which touch the native layer like
video playback, shaped windows, and hardware acceleration. I wish we
had shipped Li
But doesn't it work fine on both platforms except for some video codecs,
etc?
That says nothing about the overall technology set but rather about the
lack of portability of a handful of bits.
Paul Hardin wrote:
> As a Java developer it does strike me that there is something deeply
> wrong with
Paul Hardin wrote:
> As a Java developer it does strike me that there is something deeply
> wrong with JavaFX if, 5 months after release to production, and, after
> releasing a second revision, the development team is unable to make it
> work on Linux and OpenSolaris.
>
The wrong point is not w
As a Java developer it does strike me that there is something deeply
wrong with JavaFX if, 5 months after release to production, and, after
releasing a second revision, the development team is unable to make it
work on Linux and OpenSolaris.
Right or wrong, it makes Ed's comments about finding it
per Slashdot:
http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/06/1619250&art_pos=2
Maybe some of that JBuilder-ish code will end up powering MicroFocus'
COBOL dev tools...
Yours,
tom
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Sebastian Himberger <
sebastian.himber...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> H Viktori,
>
> regarding this code:
>
> *case class Person(var name : String)*
>
> So does Scala generate/impy a sensible hashCode and equals
> implementation or why are they omitted in your Scala
Joshua Marinacci wrote:
> You can join apple's free developer program to get the latest releases
> of Java. They recently posted a developer preview of something more
> recent than update 7.
>
_13 and it works very well
Kirk
> On May 6, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
>
>
I would really like to hear back from Ed. He is not the first person
to have a bad reaction to JavaFX initially. There seems to be some
sort of a mental hurdle that a lot of people face, including myself 2
years ago. Once they play with it enough they suddenly 'get it' and
become happy a
very soon.
On May 6, 2009, at 6:15 AM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
> Another concrete remark : linux is not supported (yet). Do you have
> an idea for when it is planned ?
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Joshua Marinacci
> wrote:
> Thank you. Though you say it's subjective your criticisms are
You can join apple's free developer program to get the latest releases
of Java. They recently posted a developer preview of something more
recent than update 7.
On May 6, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
>
> Summary of OP:
>
> I looked at it, it sucked. I won't tell you why; inste
H Viktori,
regarding this code:
*case class Person(var name : String)*
So does Scala generate/impy a sensible hashCode and equals
implementation or why are they omitted in your Scala example? I'm a
total Scala newby so I would be glad to be enlightened.
Thanks a lot,
Sebastian
On 6 Mai, 10:22
Marcelo Morales wrote:
> No company will provide a paying version of NetBeans. GPL should kill
> the market. Dual licensing strikes as a cheap thick IMHO
>
>
NetBeans is GPL + ClassPathException. You can build over the Platform,
or the IDE, adding your own modules, and make people pay for them
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Alexey wrote:
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> Indeed, your example appears striking. I haven't worked with Scala,
> but I've been coming back to it and reading up on it at a leisurely
> pace. This example made me want to dig a little deeper and see what's
> what.
>
> Well, as it turns out,
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> Vince O'Sullivan wrote:
>
> On May 6, 10:34 am, Neil Bartlett wrote:
>
>
> Wait, I thought NetBeans was open source. How can it possibly die?
>
>
> Being open source means that it is free to consume, however it is far
> from free to prod
My IDE of choice is Nedit. It comes with fairly good Java syntax
definitions, but nothing for Scala it seems. Anyone know of any Nedit
Scala syntax defs? Doesn't need to be anything overly complicated.
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Viktor, I'm the first to agree that is ugly boilerplate (in fact, I
proposed a (denied) proposal to the coin list that nevertheless did
get some positive traction for a context sensitive keyword on a class
declare that turns all its members into getters, and generates a
toString, an equals, and a
Vince O'Sullivan wrote:
> On May 6, 10:34 am, Neil Bartlett wrote:
>
>> Wait, I thought NetBeans was open source. How can it possibly die?
>>
>
> Being open source means that it is free to consume, however it is far
> from free to produce. If it is to compete with eclipse (underwritten
>
Did I quote Gladwell anywhere? I made reference to a premise of his book.
Having a gut reaction to something, without being able to explain how you
reached that conclusion, and yet still being 'correct', is something that
many people deal with all the time. I think there's a lot of that going on
Indeed, your example appears striking. I haven't worked with Scala,
but I've been coming back to it and reading up on it at a leisurely
pace. This example made me want to dig a little deeper and see what's
what.
Well, as it turns out, according what I've come across so far (I
didn't get a chanc
On May 6, 10:34 am, Neil Bartlett wrote:
> Wait, I thought NetBeans was open source. How can it possibly die?
Being open source means that it is free to consume, however it is far
from free to produce. If it is to compete with eclipse (underwritten
largely - I understand - by IBM) and IntelliJ
Summary of OP:
I looked at it, it sucked. I won't tell you why; instead I'll just
whinge, because I'm a non-contributing zero.
Ed, post some constructive criticism, or go away.
NB: Michael, Gladwell is a gifted author, a real yarnspinner, but you
shouldn't quote him with the presumption that hi
Yeah - I noticed that too, just thought it was my computer being crap,
I've had issues with HD performance anyway. I do hope they get it
fixed. It does take Netbeans a couple of minutes to start up now as
it scans in everything, but it's not a deal breaker for me at this
point. Some of the nigh
Another concrete remark : linux is not supported (yet). Do you have an idea
for when it is planned ?
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Joshua Marinacci wrote:
> Thank you. Though you say it's subjective your criticisms are concrete.
> Streaming video is choppy, the browser integration isn't great,
Thank you. Though you say it's subjective your criticisms are
concrete. Streaming video is choppy, the browser integration isn't
great, and you get certificate dialogs (though the JavaFX runtime is
signed by a trusted root cert, you still get the dialog on Mac). These
are all things we are
Did anyone hear read 'blink' by Malcolm Gladwell? The crux of the book is
that there are a number of 'snap decision' or 'gut reactions' people have,
can't
explain why, but are nonetheless born out as correct
predictions/assessments.
I'm reminded of that in the JavaFX discussion.
JavaFX can tick o
+1
I really enjoyed it, and I'm happy this gang of 4 found the time to do
that. Really hope they will continue with it.
On Apr 23, 1:35 pm, David MARTIN wrote:
> I've listened this first episode too, and I'd like to say how good I
> find this initiative. As a french native speaker (mother tongue
Or is this simply a matter of "it's too weird and dissimilar to anything
I have background in"?
Be honest -- I don't mean the latter as a slam.
For instance, I'll admit that I find Scala far too weird and dissimilar
to anything I'm used to. While I like the ideas behind Scala, the
actual synt
Do you have any specific criticisms about the language? What features
do you find confusing or annoying? We are always looking for ways to
improve it.
- Josh
On May 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Ed wrote:
>
> Why is JavaFX such an extreme departure from Java? At least Flex has
> ActionScript and MX
Neil Bartlett wrote:
> Wait, I thought NetBeans was open source. How can it possibly die?
>
>
Well, an open source project CAN die if the "community" (note the
quotes) only thinks it's a great FREE project that somebody else is
giving away. While it's impossible for an open source project to
I don't see any actual arguments here about what is wrong with JavaFX.
Actually it seems to be the JavaFX Script language that you have a
problem with, not the platform or libraries etc. So, aside from "ugly"
and "unintuitive" (which are highly subjective), why exactly do you
think there is "just
Wait, I thought NetBeans was open source. How can it possibly die?
On May 5, 12:34 pm, kibitzer wrote:
> With Oracle's acquisition of Sun, I can't see a future for NetBeans. I
> find this extremely disturbing as (hand on heart) NetBeans is my
> favourite FOSS IDE.
>
> Am I wrong?
>
> What does t
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
>
>
> > That's when the question to write libraries in Scala to be consumed by
> Java
> > application code.
>
> I think your point probably says more about Java than it does about
> Scala, though that notion has been highly controversial in this
> That's when the question to write libraries in Scala to be consumed by Java
> application code.
I think your point probably says more about Java than it does about
Scala, though that notion has been highly controversial in this forum
until Scala, JavaFX etc. gained growth.
And as Joshua Bloch
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Alexey Zinger wrote:
>
>
> This is gonna be about verbosity of generics, isn't it?
Hi Alexey!
The switch to Java 5 certainly added alot of cruft for API developers with
regards to the addition of Generics.
But this is not about Generics, this is about all the sm
I use JDeveloper daily (not by choice) and one thing it has is pretty
good support for BPEL and stuff like that. And Oracle's direction is
to make everything wizardable/configurable/deployable through the IDE.
However, the NetBeans editors really shine there (BPEL I mean) as
well. Overall it's a
On 6 May 2009, at 02:40, Paul King wrote:
>
> Guillaume Laforge's DSL talk shows this rather nicely.
> Language is Groovy, context is writing DSLs but you will get the idea.
> Slides 12-17:
> http://www.slideshare.net/glaforge/practical-groovy-domainspecific-languages-springone-europe-2009
I saw
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