Re: [The Java Posse] Java vs. C++: The Performance Showdown ???

2010-01-13 Thread Paul King
0 ms, does that make it infinity times faster? Sounds about right to me! ;-) On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Stuart McCulloch mccu...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/13 HommeDeJava claude.coulo...@gmail.com Greetings folks, I came across this pretty strange testbed which compares Java and C++

[The Java Posse] Re: Holiday Special Podcast

2010-01-13 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
I enjoyed the podcast a lot more than I expected to, perhaps because the various discussions never strayed (too) far from Java and computing in general. In fact, it wasn't so different from a normal podcast. It did take me three days of commuting to get through it all though, leaving 12 other

[The Java Posse] Re: Java vs. C++: The Performance Showdown ???

2010-01-13 Thread Christian Catchpole
These performance tests are dodgy at the best of times, simply because the way you approach problems are different in different languages. For example, Java is all about create lots of objects where C++ might take a more conservative approach (but at the expense of more convoluted code). C++

[The Java Posse] Re: Tough verdict on JavaFx/Silverligt style RIA

2010-01-13 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
On Jan 12, 6:20 pm, Stephen Chin st...@widgetfx.org wrote: If Alex Ruiz and I have anything to say about it, JavaFX will have some good, open-source UI automation soon... :) You obviously don't work for Apple... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The

[The Java Posse] Re: Java vs. C++: The Performance Showdown ???

2010-01-13 Thread Christian Catchpole
Or maybe that IS the more accurate performance test? How quickly can I encode a JPEG? The language decides how that code needs to be written. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to

[The Java Posse] a mind-refreshing experience: Scala to Java AST processing

2010-01-13 Thread Miguel Garcia
After working my way in detective mode through the sources of the Scala compiler, I've put together a write-up [1] to re-launch the Scala to Java Translator project. The draft notes summarize (all!) previous work, discuss work-in-progress, and identify open issues. For better results, you may

Re: [The Java Posse] Tough verdict on JavaFx/Silverligt style RIA

2010-01-13 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Stephen Chin wrote: If Alex Ruiz and I have anything to say about it, JavaFX will have some good, open-source UI automation soon... On 1/12/2010 10:09 AM, Casper Bang wrote: Can't say I was surpriced to read this analysis from ThoughWorks (Martin Fowler):

[The Java Posse] Re: Tough verdict on JavaFx/Silverligt style RIA

2010-01-13 Thread Joe Sondow
DHTML/JavaScript has been made testable over the past few years by tools such as Selenium. Making your web app testable does sometimes require introducing some contrivances for predictable output in test mode. However, Selenium has decent support for writing tests that are flexible enough to

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Lenny P
I fly in the most expensive place near Manhattan, it's $275/hr + instructor, for flight time only, not for 'total time' so it actually is more affordable than people think. I fly around 1hr every 3 weeks on average, not too expensive if you ask me. And, an airplane is about $125/hr on average, so

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Lenny P
If you look at the statistics breakdown: http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/nall.html you will see that the majority of pilot errors are things like fuel exhaustion, _continuing_ flight into adverse weather conditions (as opposed to turning around land), low level maneuvering 'buzzing'. When

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Casper Bang
However helicopters do have disadvantages over fixed wings models, in that it's harder to redirect horizontal force vertically so if you fall, you likely fall like a rock and crush your pelvis upon impact. Even when commanding auto rotation, that only works between certain height right? Can you

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Lenny P
Helicopter has no inherent disadvantages in terms of lift from a fixed wing. However, it's more susceptible to pilot error in critical phases of flight, in case of a power loss. For example, during takeoff, if the collective isn't lowered in case of a power loss in less than 2 seconds, an

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Casper Bang
Wow interesting, that's not what the pilot did last time I was in a R44... I'll demand another flight. ;) On Jan 13, 8:54 pm, Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us wrote: Helicopter has no inherent disadvantages in terms of lift from a fixed wing. However, it's more susceptible to pilot error in

[The Java Posse] Java Application Installation

2010-01-13 Thread smartnhandsome
I have small java swing based application which uses mysql database for its operation to create a report. I wanted the whole application jar, database and JRE to be packaged as a distribution so that It can install all the three into a windows based machine. How can this be achieved. Any help or

RE: [The Java Posse] Java Application Installation

2010-01-13 Thread Todd Costella
We use Advanced Installer for our our Windows MSIs (http://www.advancedinstaller.com/). -Original Message- From: javaposse@googlegroups.com [mailto:javapo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of smartnhandsome Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:56 PM To: The Java Posse Subject: [The Java

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Application Installation

2010-01-13 Thread warwickhunter
You could package the entire application using Java Network Launching Protocol (JNLP). I have used this once on a small application, but not for anything serious. http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Programming/jnlp/ Warwick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Application Installation

2010-01-13 Thread Casper Bang
Just watch out, as Web Start has it's own share of issues. You WILL experience computers which refuse to install and changing/updating security certificate can also cause hickups among existing installations. /Casper On Jan 13, 11:56 pm, warwickhunter warwickhun...@gmail.com wrote: You could

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Application Installation

2010-01-13 Thread smartnhandsome
Thanks for all your posts, I am familiar with JNLP but I am not hosting it on a web server ( hope I understood it right) but I also want to install a mysql database and create a database. I would really like to create a more of self installation package of some sort. On Jan 13, 5:19 pm, Casper

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java Application Installation

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Wright
You'd be better off using an embedded database out of the box, with a configurable option to use something like mysql externally. What if the user already has mysql installed, or they have postgres and don't want the overhead of an additional service? What if they want to use a DB on a separate

[The Java Posse] Re: Tough verdict on JavaFx/Silverligt style RIA

2010-01-13 Thread RogerV
But there's also an expanded scope of stuff to test with DHTML/ JavaScript as the various browsers, platforms hosting browsers, JavaScript idiosyncrasies, etc., etc., have to be figured into the over all cost of development and test. Flex gives us a much more confined range of consistency to deal

[The Java Posse] Re: Tough verdict on JavaFx/Silverligt style RIA

2010-01-13 Thread robogeek
On Jan 12, 10:25 am, Jess Holle je...@ptc.com wrote: Entirely dismissing Flex, JavaFX, and Silverlight all because they don't have as many automated testing tools as DHTML seems a bit much. Testability is a great *ability.  It is not the only *ability, though. Testing DHTML isn't a panacea

[The Java Posse] Re: Tough verdict on JavaFx/Silverligt style RIA

2010-01-13 Thread Michael Franz
On Jan 13, 8:17 pm, robogeek reiki...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 12, 10:25 am, Jess Holle je...@ptc.com wrote: Entirely dismissing Flex, JavaFX, and Silverlight all because they don't have as many automated testing tools as DHTML seems a bit much. Testability is a great *ability.  It is

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java Application Installation

2010-01-13 Thread Mark Fortner
I agree with Kevin's assessment. If you need to use a local database, then you might consider using Java DB which ships with Java 5 and 6. This would make your installation smaller, and less complex. You would be able to use JNLP to package and distribute your app. If you use NetBeans, you can